Media War Featuring Fox News Versus CNN & MSNBC Has Begun

[Turborama]

Media war featuring Fox News versus CNN & MSNBC has begun

Ryan Witt

The (war) of news media networks has begun and it is not a pretty sight. While CNN, Fox News, and MSNBC have always had a rivalry they never let the animosity spill out into the open as they have now.

Tensions have been building forever as on-air personalities like Bill O' Reilly and Keith Olbermann frequently engaged in back-and-forth spats. Recently former CNN turned Fox News personality Glenn Beck http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-5738-Political-Buzz-Examiner~y2009m9d11-Video--Glenn-Beck-complains-about-lack-of-ACORN-story-but-neglects-to-mention-his-loss-of-sponsors">was critical of the lack of coverage given to his Van Jones and ACORN stories. What ultimately turned this cold war into a full-scale hot war though was an ad run by Fox News in the Washington Post.

In http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igZZzs3MR7Y">the ad Fox News accuses all the other news networks of essentially ignoring the 9/12 Tea Party protest in Washington D.C. The ad seems to have been the last straw for CNN as Rick Sanchez http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-5738-Political-Buzz-Examiner~y2009m9d18-Video--CNNs-Rick-Sanchez-slams-Fox-News-over-912-Tea-Party-coverage">devoted a long segment of his show to proving CNN did in fact extensively cover the 9/12 protests. At the end of his segment Sanchez went on the criticize how Fox News "promoted" the event rather than "covering" the event.

Now CNN is picking up on the "cover but don't promote" theme. Campbell Brown made the same charge against Fox News in her airtime. Finally CNN is now running their own ad claiming that Fox News engages in "distorting not reporting." We now can all eagerly anticipate the next Fox News reaction.


Full article: http://www.examiner.com/x-5738-Political-Buzz-Examiner~y2009m9d19-Video--Media-war-featuring-Fox-News-versus-CNN--MSNBC-has-begun

OMG I really hope that CNN continues pulling the curtain like this and that it's only the beginning of the end of the Reich's brainwashing propaganda machine.

[rwheeler31]

1. Finally real reporters are going after those slobs at Fox.

[SpiralHawk]

2. "Bring it on. Smirk." - xCommander AWOL (R - FAIL)

[Chemisse]

3. Now THAT'S the kind of war I can enjoy!

It's about time there was some industry pressure on FOX. Maybe they all will relearn the lessons of objectivity over this.

[Warpy]

4. That should boost their ratings nicely

which, I suppose, is the point.

[AspenRose]

5. ClusterFox "News" = Propaganda organ

[47of74]

6. Arrr Matey!

[MadMaddie]

7. Good!

[Why Syzygy]

8. And they all sponsor republicans ..

And own politicians.

GENERAL ELECTRIC --(donated 1.1 million to GW Bush for his 2000 election campaign)

Television Holdings:
* NBC: includes 13 stations, 28% of US households.
* NBC Network News: The Today Show, Nightly News with Tom Brokaw, Meet the Press, Dateline NBC, NBC News at Sunrise.
* CNBC business television; MSNBC 24-hour cable and Internet news service (co-owned by NBC and Microsoft); Court TV (co-owned with Time Warner), Bravo (50%), A&E (25%), History Channel (25%).
The "MS" in MSNBC
means microsoft
The same Microsoft that donated 2.4 million to get GW bush elected.

Other Holdings:
* GE Consumer Electronics.
* GE Power Systems: produces turbines for nuclear reactors and power plants.
* GE Plastics: produces military hardware and nuclear power equipment.
* GE Transportation Systems: runs diesel and electric trains.
==================================================

WESTINGHOUSE / CBS INC.
Westinghouse Electric Company, part of the Nuclear Utilities Business Group of British Nuclear Fuels (BNFL)
whos #1 on the Board of Directors? None other than:
Frank Carlucci (of the Carlyle Group)

Television Holdings:
* CBS: includes 14 stations and over 200 affiliates in the US.
* CBS Network News: 60 minutes, 48 hours, CBS Evening News with Dan Rather, CBS Morning News, Up to the Minute.
* Country Music Television, The Nashville Network, 2 regional sports networks.
* Group W Satellite Communications.
Other Holdings:
* Westinghouse Electric Company: provides services to the nuclear power industry.
* Westinghouse Government Environmental Services Company: disposes of nuclear and hazardous wastes. Also operates 4 government-owned nuclear power plants in the US.
* Energy Systems: provides nuclear power plant design and maintenance.
================================================================
VIACOM INTERNATIONAL INC.
Television Holdings:
* Paramount Television, Spelling Television, MTV, VH-1, Showtime, The Movie Channel, UPN (joint owner), Nickelodeon, Comedy Central, Sundance Channel (joint owner), Flix.
* 20 major market US stations.
Media Holdings:
* Paramount Pictures, Paramount Home Video, Blockbuster Video, Famous Players Theatres, Paramount Parks.
* Simon & Schuster Publishing.
=============================================
DISNEY / ABC / CAP (donated 640 thousand to GW's 2000 campaign)
Television Holdings:
* ABC: includes 10 stations, 24% of US households.
* ABC Network News: Prime Time Live, Nightline, 20/20, Good Morning America.
* ESPN, Lifetime Television (50%), as well as minority holdings in A&E, History Channel and E!
* Disney Channel/Disney Television, Touchtone Television.
Media Holdings:
* Miramax, Touchtone Pictures.
* Magazines: Jane, Los Angeles Magazine, W, Discover.
* 3 music labels, 11 major local newspapers.
* Hyperion book publishers.
* Infoseek Internet search engine (43%).
Other Holdings:
* Sid R. Bass (major shares) crude oil and gas.
* All Disney Theme Parks, Walt Disney Cruise Lines.
======================================================

TIME-WARNER TBS - AOL (donated 1.6 million to GW's 2000 campaign)
America Online (AOL) acquired Time Warner–the largest merger in corporate history.
Television Holdings:
* CNN, HBO, Cinemax, TBS Superstation, Turner Network Television, Turner Classic Movies, Warner Brothers Television, Cartoon Network, Sega Channel, TNT, Comedy Central (50%), E! (49%), Court TV (50%).
* Largest owner of cable systems in the US with an estimated 13 million subscribers.
Media Holdings:
* HBO Independent Productions, Warner Home Video, New Line Cinema, Castle Rock, Looney Tunes, Hanna-Barbera.
* Music: Atlantic, Elektra, Rhino, Sire, Warner Bros. Records, EMI, WEA, Sub Pop (distribution) = the world’s largest music company.
* 33 magazines including Time, Sports Illustrated, People, In Style, Fortune, Book of the Month Club, Entertainment Weekly, Life, DC Comics (50%), and MAD Magazine.
Other Holdings:
* Sports: The Atlanta Braves, The Atlanta Hawks, World Championship Wrestling.
=======================================================
NEWS CORPORATION LTD. / FOX NETWORKS (Rupert Murdoch) (donations see bottom note)
Television Holdings:
* Fox Television: includes 22 stations, 50% of US households.
* Fox International: extensive worldwide cable and satellite networks include British Sky Broadcasting (40%); VOX, Germany (49.9%); Canal Fox, Latin America; FOXTEL, Australia (50%); STAR TV, Asia; IskyB, India; Bahasa Programming Ltd., Indonesia (50%); and News Broadcasting, Japan (80%).
* The Golf Channel (33%).
MEDIA HOLDINGS:
* Twentieth Century Fox, Fox Searchlight.
* 132 newspapers (113 in Australia alone) including the New York Post, the London Times and The Australian.
* 25 magazines including TV Guide and The Weekly Standard.
* HarperCollins books.
OTHER HOLDINGS:
* Sports: LA Dodgers, LA Kings, LA Lakers, National Rugby League.
* Ansett Australia airlines, Ansett New Zealand airlines.
* Rupert Murdoch: Board of Directors, Philip Morris (USA).

*(Phillip Morris donated 2.9 million to George W Bush in 2000)*

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/04/47530.php

http://ketupa.net/murdoch1.htm

http://ketupa.net/time1.htm

[AusDem]

19. the more i learn, the more it seems like american politics

are almost entirely controlled by corporations. I mean, a company like GE would potentially also give money to a Democrat president/senators if they were sure that any nation building projects would benefit them.

NewsCorp particularly pisses me off. I'm starting to get the message out down in here in Australia as well, NewsCorp does NOT like progressive governments.

Read the following articles:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/9/19/781718/-An-Aussie-Visiting-AmericaFox-News

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/9/18/780918/-An-Aussie-Visiting-AmericaAdrenalin-Media

Very, very scary stuff.

[C_U_L8R]

9. it's about time that the press police itself

shame those faux assholes right out of the business

[depakid]

17. That'll happen about the same time as Americans get single payer health care....

[Skittles]

31. also, people of credibility need to take a cue from Obama

DO NOT APPEAR ON FOX NEWS - IT IS REPUKE WHORE PROPAGANDA

[mzmolly]

10. It's about time actual media called out the imposters at Faux.

:hi:

[Captain Hilts]

11. Fight to the death! nt

[Catshrink]

12. Game on...

I'd like to see CNN or MSNBC do something like "Just who is Rupert Murdoch?" and why does he want to control what you think or hear or whatever. Can you just imagine how Beck and his ilk would spin Murdoch's foreign origins if he owned one of the other cable new outlets? Unpatriotic! Unamerican! blah blah blah.

[lbrtbell]

14. Countdown already did a 2-part Murdoch expose

But that was a few years ago. Maybe it's time for Keith to do another hard-hitting sequel. I'm sure Pirate Rupert has committed a lot more sins since that first two-parter....

[Enthusiast]

18. Excellent point.

Something I never considered before. Just imagine the Fox News outrage if MSNBC or CNN had 'foreign' ownership.

[aquart]

13. If it ups viewership, they'll run with it.

So give the kids a reward.

[Doctor_J]

15. This is one of those fake spats like the Repukes sometimes stage

CNN and Fix "News" are both in the same business - reporting ultra-right-wing propaganda, sinking Obama's presidency, and getting Repukes elected.

[Turborama]

16. Not so much

If you watch http://edition.cnn.com/">CNN International you can see some really good objective reporting & programs.

I have been having a look at Faux over the past few months to get to know how the enemy is operating and can honestly say that in that time I have not seen ONE story on that NeoCON voicebox that was about something happening outside of America.

To compete with that, is there a Faux news International equivalent to the excellent CNN International channel? No! Is Faux news spreading it's NeoCON/arguably racist but certainly xenophobic propaganda all around the world - including with approx. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,184837,00.html">100 cable operators in the two largest Muslim populated countries in the world, Pakistan and Indonesia? Yes!


Saying CNN is the same as Faux is akin to saying Bill O'Lielly is the same as Keith Olbermann, which is clearly wrong.

[Why Syzygy]

20. Just like the CEO negotiated truce

between MSNBC (GE) and POX (Murdoch), if either one of them start hurting the corporate interests of the other, they will be silenced.

[Doctor_J]

21. This discussion isn't about CNNI. It's about domestic CNN

Those are two entirely different entities. Domestic CNN is nearly indistinguishable from Fox "News", in their right-wing GOP slant. One need only peruse Media Matters for a few minutes to see dozens of examples. Or, if MM is too "liberal" for you, try to sit through an hour of Lou Dobbs or Howard Kurtz. I guess it's nice that CNN actually provides real news to the rest of the world, but here in America it's just another GOP propaganda center.

You admit to being addicted to Fox. I am sorry to be really blunt, but that makes anything you say pretty suspect.

[Turborama]

22. No, I did not admit to being "addicted to Fox"

What I actually said was that "I have been having a look at Faux over the past few months to get to know how the enemy is operating" and that doesn't make anything I say suspect at all. What it does say is that I'm informing myself and not burying my head in the sand and pretending it doesn't exist, as anyone who is a regular on the videos forum and/or looked at my journal/http://www.youtube.com/user/Naskeleng">YouTube Channel will attest.

I'm an expat living abroad and I have 5 different non-local TV news sources: BBC World, Al Jazeera English, CNN International, CNBC and Faux. Faux only started being broadcast here about 3 months ago and I have been looking at it through a totally different lens than your prejudice assumes. In fact, my MAIN sources of TV news are, and have been for a long time, CNN International, BBC World and Al Jazeera English.

Actually, your knee-jerking assumptions about me and ridiculous twisting of what I have written makes your objectivity very suspect.

[Doctor_J]

24. So, getting back to the discussion, CNNI may not be like Fox,

but the CNN that is piped into US homes is extremely conservative/Republican in its ideology, having the same number of liberals hosting shows (0) as Fox, while giving regular air time to reactionaries like Dobbs, Zionists like Blitzer, and corporate Repukes like Kurtz. They used to sign King Glenn's checks, but could not match Fox's offer to the lunatic, a decision which they are now likely regretting since he's now required viewing for the mouth-breathing Palinites.

At any rate, MSNBC's daytime line-up is also very conservative, but in the evening they do provide evening shows for Rachel, Keith, and Ed (though Ed has more repukes than Dems on his show). So they are by far the best of the three "news" networks.

Congrats on escaping the US before Beck became Supreme Ruler. I cannot fathom why anyone would watch Fox if BBC and CNNI were available though.

[Turborama]

25. There are a few notable exceptions, though IMO

Christiane Amanpour is starting a http://edition.cnn.com/CNNI/Programs/amanpour/">new show tomorrow. It'll be broadcast daily on CNNI and, unfortunately for those in the US, only weekly on CNN.

From what I've seen recently on the videos forum Rick Sanchez has been doing some good work, and Anderson Cooper's http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2009/planet.in.peril/">Planet In Peril series has been excellent.

I was watching Faux occasionally out of morbid curiosity and then during the Van Jones thing I started watching it some more, it really wound me up because I'm a big fan of Van and wanted to keep on top of how it was playing out. I made http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/9/9/779019/-Big-Oil-Lobbyist-Was-Behind-the-Van-Jones-Witch-Hunt">a Dairy about it on Kos, if you're interested to see what I came up with. Then the whole ACORN thing came along and it was/is wall to wall ACORN and as soon as that started happening I stopped watching Faux and started researching the back story of the instigators and following the threads on GD instead. As you know, there's only so much Faux a sane person can take.

In fact, that experience of watching Faux has made me want go on a personal crusade to bring it down, as I mentioned in this thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6513234&mesg_id=6514526

[ihavenobias]

29. Amen on Rick Sanchez.

And no, CNN is not as bad as Fox. That's not saying much though.

[Doctor_J]

32. Here's another example of your lack of coherence on CNN's skew

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8664793

[Turborama]

33. I thought we were beginning to have a decent conversation about this

But you've reverted back to behaving like a troll.

1st you accuse me of being "addicted to Fox" and now instead of responding to post #25 you come back with this is as an example my "lack of coherence" when I haven't posted anything in that thread? What has that got to do with anything I wrote?

[ooglymoogly]

23. Hmmmmm....let me see here....Didn't Glen beck migrate from

CNN....CNN has a few good honest people and the rest just pug claptrap. Fuk news on the other hand is just a bunch of thug, criminal minds who have found a padded cell in their own private hell and are trying to decorate it into something it is not, "Fair and balanced", ain't that a joke. Crepe paper bunting in hell does not fair offly well.

[Cobalt-60]

27. Spot on.

They've been staging these pillow fights since the 1980s.
Please note that I no longer distinguish between Torture Party politicians and
the fascist media. They're all on the same team.
They don't want to have less than 30% credibility.
But their corporate masters don't want the news reported.
So its illusion, nothing more.
American Journalism, with the exceptions of Democracy Now and Bill Moyers, is dead.
And it won't be back in our lifetime
I recommend the BBC and the Guardian.

[bulloney]

26. Faux must have really crossed the line to make CNN fight back.

At one time, there seemed to have been a media etiquette to not bash another network news organization.

[samsingh]

28. and may it result in the utter destruction of that horrific evil UnAmerican thing called

fox news.

[Puzzler]

30. Notice how the article thinks there are two sides to this issue?

There are not. Fox was clearly lying, and even had the temerity of using a CNN sourced picture in their anti-CNN ad!