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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 10:34 AM
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Juan Cole: McChrystal Warns of Failure in Afghanistan without More US Troops;
Monday, September 21, 2009
McChrystal Warns of Failure in Afghanistan without More US Troops;
Obama not ready to make Decision

There is a serious and growing rift between the Obama White House and the uniformed officers over Afghanistan policy, according to Rajiv Chandrasekaran and Karen DeYoung at WaPo (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/20/AR2009092002878.html?hpid=topnews). They have seen the review produced by Gen. Stanley McChrystal,which warns that unless more US troops are injected into Afghanistan during the next year, the counter-insurgency effort could fail. McChrystal sketched out his approach, modeled in some ways on what the military learned in Iraq, at a time when Obama had momentum on Afghanistan and he assumed that Washington was committed to a counter-insurgency effort.

In the meantime, the US public turned against the war, the Democrats in Congress started resisting sending more troops, and Hamid Karzai destroyed the legitimacy of his government by trying to steal the presidential election. Some administration advisers are apparently urging the US to get out of Afghanstan but to retain the capability of hitting dangerous persons and groups with aerial drones.

On the Sunday talk shows, Obama seemed somewhat hostile to the idea of sending more troops, and certainly before the strategic goals were spelled out.

Apparently military officers are just furious with the president for not making a decision by now one way or another. It is true that Hamlet wouldn't last 5 minutes in Afghanistan.

I wonder if another thing that happened wasn't the successful Pakistani military campaign against the Pakistani Taliban in the Swat Valley, which revealed to Washington that Pakistan is not after all a failed state on the verge of collapse, and that there were regional actors who could and would take on the extremists under some circumstances.

One hope that Washington repeatedly expresses is that an Afghan national army can be trained and the country turned over to it in only a few years. Ann Jones at Tomdispatch.com (http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175116) suggests, based on her own experience in Kabul, that the Afghan army may not actually exist, and may, in fact be a scam whereby an Afghan joins, takes the basic training pay, and then disappears. Some may even go through it two and three times. She points out that when 4,000 Marines went into Helmand Province this spring, they were accompanied by only 600 Afghan troops, and she wonders where the others are. She has a dark suspicion that no such army tens of thousands strong even exists. The US may even have trained persons who then defected to the Taliban.

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"the Afghan army may not actually exist, and may, in fact be a scam whereby an Afghan joins, takes the basic training pay, and then disappears. Some may even go through it two and three times. She points out that when 4,000 Marines went into Helmand Province this spring, they were accompanied by only 600 Afghan troops, and she wonders where the others are. She has a dark suspicion that no such army tens of thousands strong even exists. The US may even have trained persons who then defected to the Taliban."
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OK. The rough kids at the playground aren't playing fair. Can we just take our ball home now?
We'll play H-O-R-S-E in the driveway. It'll save money. Fewer trips to the emergency room. Fuck politics, let's just survive. How much of our fear is fake? What purpose Afghanistan? What would victory bring?
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 10:35 AM
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1. That memo shouldn't have been leaked
A full top to bottom investigation of who leaked the memo should be conducted and the leaker fired.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 10:37 AM
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2. Failure? What is "failure" when you don't even know what "success" is?
What the hell is THE MISSION? Why are we there? Simply to protect Cheney's pipeline? Then let HIM pay for private troops instead of using tax money and American soldiers as his private Profits Protection Force.

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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 10:55 AM
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3. The military isn't going to ever defeat the Taliban & they know it.
They are just content in dragging this out year by year.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 02:13 PM
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4. Demeter Predicts Total, Miserable Failure Even WITH More Troops
Give it up, Obama! Bring all the troops home! End the illegal, undeclared wars of occupation and Empire now!
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excess_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 11:07 PM
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5. how did Obama vote on funding the war in Afghanistan, when
how did Obama vote on funding the war in Afghanistan,
when he was a Senator?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 08:18 AM
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6. Let the butt-covering begin ... nt
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 08:46 AM
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7. More troops in Vietnamistan = more contractors have lucrative contracts; more weapons
used, abused, destroyed and replaced by weapons manufacturers; more opportunities for military commanders to get promotions; more opportunities to test weapons systems in "real-world" conditions; more chances to hype the importance of maintaining a STRONG military; more training for our military and our civilian contractors in how to deal with "insurgencies"; more insurgents created so there's always someone to call the enemy.

Let's face it, for general officers there are few DOWN sides to an expanded war anywhere in the world. They are the ones who seldom, if ever, are exposed to potential for harm, yet they stand to gain much from just being stationed in a war zone.

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