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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 09:11 AM
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Is your TV watching you?
http://www.internetnews.com/hardware/article.php/3840916/Intel+Inside+Could+Mean+a+TV+That+Watches+You.htm

Intel Inside Could Mean a TV That Watches You

It will either be really cool or really creepy, but some day your TV will know a lot more about you.


September 25, 2009
By Andy Patrizio: More stories by this author:

SAN FRANCISCO -- Intel is putting Atom processors almost everywhere these days, with the latest target being televisions. The company announced a new Atom-based system-on-a-chip (SoC) design for television sets to make them the hub of social networking and interactivity.

--snip--


For example, it knew what TV shows Rattner had been previously watching but paused in mid-viewing. When turned on another set he was offered the opportunity to continue watching the show, even though he was watching on a different TV.

Another, potentially disturbing element for privacy advocates, of the smart TV was it knew, thanks to a mobile Internet device (MID) Rattner had been carrying, that he recently visited a musical instrument store. The MID told the TV this, and among the different shows offered for suggested viewing were shows on guitarists. At the bottom of the screen were banner advertisements, one of them for a guitar store.

--snip--

Minority Report. Life imitates Art.

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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 09:13 AM
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1. It's the telescreen from 1984
When will mankind ever learn?
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 10:03 AM
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3. "They're here"
Sweetheart, do you remember last night when you woke up, and you said "They're here.'?
Uh huh....
Well, who did you mean?
The TV People.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 06:02 PM
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8. Yep. That was my first thought too.
Enough to make you want to never have a TV or electronic hand held device again.
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carla Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 04:34 AM
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12. I have been
without a television for years and the only thing I seem to be missing is a whole lot of BS.
Free yourselves from this vice, it is not what it seems. TV is THE mass control device and should be kept away from children, especially. Please, no blah-blah about the "quality programming..." drek.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 06:33 PM
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23. You're serious about not having a TV at all?
How have you managed?
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 07:28 PM
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24. You're kidding, I hope
My family hasn't watched tv for years. We do have one tv, that's hooked up to a dvd player so the kids can watch movies (at the moment they're on a weekend Lord of the Rings-athon).

But television as far as watching programs and news and commercials? Its on a long slide, and good riddance.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 09:16 PM
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25. When did you do away with TV?
And how did you do it?
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 11:13 PM
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26. in 2000 we shut off the cable service
as it was stupidly expensive and we hardly watched anything anyway. We had an aerial antennae still, an got PBS and a couple of local channels, but in 2001 we did some remodeling and the tv sat in a part of the room where the cable didn't reach. No one missed it, though we have always had it in the room with a dvd player attached. My two daughters were fond of disney movies for awhile, and anime now.

Generally we read, we write (my daughters and I are all working separately on writing projects), we talk, we listen to music. I make a couple of trips a week to the library, and there's always interesting books. You can also get movies and music and books on tape and so forth too. And of course there's the internet, and we do go outside on occasion.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 01:05 AM
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27. So you don't miss it
Do you feel like you are out of the culture?
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 01:42 AM
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28. Seriously, no
I feel like I miss a whole lot of stupidity. I talk to people a lot, I listen to NPR to keep up on news and the arts and so forth and I read some news and blogs online; but the part of "culture" that you find on regular tv is like predigested junk-food - get away from it for awhile and you'll wonder how on earth you ever spent your time on that crap. To be blunt.
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 10:01 AM
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15. We are all holding a lit match ...thinking its never going to burn us. nt
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 09:28 AM
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2. The next step up from TiVos?
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 12:41 PM
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4. I don't know about up.
"Honey, I'm Home."

Hello, Dear, I see you've been to the Bordello today."

"Damn, forgot to turn it off again!"
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mimitabby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:47 PM
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5. this is creepy, but my TV would be really bored trying to watch me.
all i ever watch is Olbermann and Rachel Maddow
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8 track mind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 03:00 PM
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6. yeah and all of the
sudden right wing advertisements would start popping up.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 04:48 PM
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7. keep it out of the bedroom...pervs could be watching
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BillDU Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 07:50 PM
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9. I think of them as sex enthusiasts
Really, considering porn stars etc. I might expect some compensation for that.
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BillDU Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 08:01 PM
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10. Nothing up my sleeve......Presto!
Oh God! With just a little personal adjustment you could have them believing anything.
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ovidsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 01:39 AM
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11. "Old dog learns new tricks"
Yes, you are being tracked. I'll start with your mail. I know I've been tracked since the 1960s.

That's when I was "invited" to the local postmaster (in suburban Chicago) to turn over all the "propaganda" I had received from Radio Moscow, Radio Peking (as it was spelled then) and Radio Havana. I was sent the stuff because I was an avid short wave listener at the time, and had sent these "subversive" stations my address. I was threatened with a ticket to Vietnam if I didn't.

It opened my eyes.

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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 09:13 AM
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14. A lot of people have not figured it out yet.
The Internet is an Intelligence gathering tool. Not much need to open envelopes anymore.
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 10:09 AM
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16. I tell people common truths about the Internet taps.


..and the fact that they are not only recording all electronic communications and storing them... they have backups as well. And they are about to turn all this data over to these mysterious "fusion centers"

They will start to create dossiers on everyone. Every phone call you ever made. Ever post to DU. Every web site you have been to. Every ex-girlfriend you may have emailed while drunk.

And they think I am crazy .. I have to show them the rare msm articles. The nsa whistle blowers who said their office was full of people listening in on troops private sexual calls to their spouses.


People are not paying attention.

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ovidsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 12:37 PM
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18. I almost don't care anymore. Almost.
My life is basically an open book. Yes, I used to smoke pot. So what? I have bought large recreational (and illegal) explosives on NYC's Canal Street (Chinatown). Big deal. I give modest amounts of money to DU. So arrest me.

I've never killed anyone (intentionally or by accident), decked anyone in a fight, or terrorized small animals with a fork. I almost never carry a weapon (unless you count the Swiss Army knife). I've never stolen anything from anyone. At worst, I broke a few hearts; but mine's been broken a few times, too.

Anyone reading my dossier will be bored to tears. Fine by me. I have no intention of planning or carrying out any destructive criminal acts Not because I'm afraid I'll be caught. But because it's not in my nature to do such things.

But I never forget I'm being tracked. And the folks who dismiss this concept as mere tin hat paranoia do so at their peril.



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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 12:48 PM
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19. The problem for me is the political affiliations and activism.


And the fact the rw wants to round up all those on the left and kill them.

Now they can find out who the lefties are.

Not to say we went down that rabbit hole yet ...but when will they explain these fusion centers?
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ovidsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 06:07 PM
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29. Too true.
I think the number of wingnuts who want to see all "liberals" round up and shot is quite small. Most of them don't want us dead. They just want us to shut up.

But if the political mood in the US changes, all bets are off.

There are now a large number of "fusion centers" that are privately funded (think Google). Right now, their operators are more interested in us as consumers than as political independents willing to rock the boat. At least for the time being.

I just think that everyone should be aware that in the 21st century (thanks to the Web), it is very difficult to escape scrutiny. Virtually every keystroke you make can be monitored. I don't think this has had a serious chilling effect on political discourse yet. Otherwise, sites like DU wouldn't exist. But the potential is there.
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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 08:09 AM
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13. If 'they're" watching, I gotta buy some new underwear
And clean the place up a little
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 10:14 AM
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17. Put a piece of black tape on your cell phone camera lens.



Call me paranoid if you want... I am. I know what you can do with billions of black budget money and technology. I program Cisco routers for a living.
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 12:54 PM
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20. Please actually read 1984 before commenting to the likeness...
:eyes:
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OKDem08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 01:19 PM
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21. I was searching the internet late one night regarding
the nefarious activities of the CIA over the decades & received an anonymous e-mail that stated merely:

What the hell you looking for?


It struck me as strange & I don't know if it was an aberration, related or not, but it really happened.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 01:35 PM
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22. Last year, Intel sent 2 people to my house and asked my wife and I
questions and for our opinion and feelings about this stuff. We told them it was creepy and it had a Big Brother feel about it. While I generally like technology, this can be so easily abused and used for nefarious purposes.
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