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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 10:23 AM
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Is the federal stimulus creating tech jobs? The government isn't saying
Recovery.gov usability, data quality draws critics

October 22, 2009 08:04 PM ET

Computerworld - WASHINGTON -- One obvious follow-up question to the U.S. government's announcement this month that the federal stimulus has created or saved 30,000 jobs so far is this: How many were IT and engineering jobs?

Unfortunately, there isn't an answer.

There is no information at Recovery.gov concerning the types of jobs either saved or created from the $16 billion in contracts awarded so far, representing 2% of the $787 billion stimulus.

The Recovery Accountability and Transparency Board that provides Recovery.gov, designed to allow citizens to track funding, is posting only what it gets in reports from recipients. "We are not analyzing it in terms of types of jobs," said a board spokeswoman.

"That sort of analysis may be made at a later date, once we get the additional recipient reports on grants and loans posted on the Web site," but there's no time frame for providing it, she said.

The Recovery.gov site includes interactive maps and spreadsheets showing companies that have received the data, the number of jobs created or saved, and a description of some of the work. This barebones information makes a rough guess possible about the quality of jobs based on description of the work, but that's it.

"One of the primary reasons for the stimulus money is to create jobs and one of the primary things we would like to know from this data is what kinds of jobs were created," said Tony Fisher, the president and CEO of data management firm DataFlux Corp.

He blamed the lack of detailed information on an absence of data, a lack of consistency to the data we have and insufficient rules governing how that data is supposed to be collected and displayed.

" falls short in a number of respects in helping users understanding spending," said Craig Jennings, a senior policy analyst for OBM Watch, a nonprofit government watchdog group.

Ease of navigation is among the problems is with the Web site, which does not allow users to search by recipient. This prompted the creation this month of the Coalition for and Accountable Recovery, which represents about 30 groups.

Along with OMB Watch, some of its other members include the Center for Responsive Politics, OMB Watch, Sunlight Foundation, Economic Policy Institute. The groups criticized the usability of the Web site, and said it needed certain functions, such as ability to search by recipient.

The stimulus is expected to create IT jobs but there's never been an estimate concerning how many. The number of both IT and engineering jobs has declined in the recession.

However, IT firms are expecting the stimulus to perk up spending. Mark Loughbridge, IBM's chief financial officer, said this month that public sector was again the fastest growing sector with 2% growth, led by health care and education.

"Now I think this is quite logical given the rollout of stimulus spend globally," he told analysts on a third quarter earnings call this month.

Meanwhile, Sun Microsystems Inc. said this week it is cutting 3,000 jobs as it awaits the acquisition of Oracle Corp.


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JonQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 10:24 AM
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1. If they aren't bragging loudly about it then the answer is: no.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 10:33 AM
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2. yeah, it's creating jobs... for India and China
here in the US, not so much. :grr:
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Pharlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-24-09 06:50 PM
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3. From what I've been able to garner from reading about the
stimulus 'job creation', it didn't create jobs as much as it prevented more job losses. They're counting a non job loss as a creation. Nothing wrong with that, but it DOES give the wrong impression.

On the other hand, since most of those jobs were teaching positions, we're very fortunate that the stimulus came when it did, or our public education system would be hurting worse than it is.

Yes, it would be nice to see tech jobs. It would be nice to see blue collar jobs and it would be nice to see the highly touted 'green jobs'. But job creation is tends to be a 'long term' (over a year out) goal.

What we need IMMEDIATELY is unemployment insurance extension guaranteed to fill the gap between now and the REAL job creation stimulus.
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AdHocSolver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 08:38 PM
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4. The fastest and best way to stimulate the U.S. economy is to limit cheap imports.
Replace NAFTA, the WTO, the IMF, and the World Bank along with all the other corporate cartel agreements and this will bring jobs back to America. Impose sensible tariffs and import quotas to allow American small businesses to compete with corporations who import cheap (and often shoddy) foreign-made products.

When Americans buy goods made by other Americans, the money spent will stay in the U.S. rather than being sent to Asia, the trade deficit and foreign debt will decrease, working Americans will pay income taxes reducing government deficits, the value of the dollar will stabilize and other countries will have confidence in U.S. currency, and this country will be able to afford to maintain its infrastructure.

Have I left any benefits out of this list?


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