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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 12:36 PM
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former UK ambassador: Afghan surge shortly before pipeline construction starts
Edited on Wed Dec-02-09 12:59 PM by yurbud
The occupation of Afghanistan by the US and its allies is there to prop up the government of President Karzai. Karzai's has always been an ultra-corrupt government of vicious warlords and drugs barons. I have been pointing this out for years,
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-469983/Britain-protecting-biggest-heroin-crop-time.html#ixzz0VS78HVR1

The CIA is up to its usual tricks again supporting the drug running of key warlords loyal to them. They are also setting up death squads on the Central American model, in cooperation with Blackwater.

Fortunately Karzai's rigging of his re-election was so blatant that the scales have fallen from the eys of the public and even the mainstream media. Politicians no longer pretend we are promoting democracy in Afghanistan.

Karzai comes directly from the Bush camp and was put in place because of his role with Unocal in developing the Trans Afghanistan Gas Pipeline project. That remains a chief strategic goal. The Asian Development Bank has agreed finance to start construction in Spring 2011. It is of course a total coincidence that 30,000 extra US troops will arrive six months before, and that the US (as opposed to other NATO forces) deployment area corresponds with the pipeline route.


the rest
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2009/12/obama_is_wrong.html


This is too important to just keep in lefty circles. Vote it up on social bookmarking sites:
http://buzzflash.net/story.php?id=1053400
http://digg.com/world_news/Afghan_surge_to_protect_pipeline_construction
http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/aacjb/afghan_surge_right_before_pipeline_construction/
http://www.jabberwonk.com/flinker.cfm?cliid=128b2i
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 12:39 PM
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1. That's an important article.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 12:42 PM
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2. Obama didn't mention this pipeline last night. Apparently it's all about
those 100 or so bad guys that are going to "get us".
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 12:52 PM
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4. a hundred or even four hundred guys would more appropriately be taken care of by special forces,
drones, and the CIA, or more efficiently by cutting off funding from their state sponsors, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 12:58 PM
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7. Seems as though the plan is to suppress Islamic Fundamentalism
on a grand scale. It's been tried many times in the past.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 01:49 PM
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13. how well would military occupation and airstrike reverse Christian fundamentalism?
I suspect that even those of us on the left would be more sympathetic to them if another country tried that here.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 12:53 PM
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5. so if 100 neo-Nazis got together in Nebraska, we would have to invade to prevent
a fourth reich in the US.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 12:43 PM
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3. which is why I am kicking it, and sharing it.
I cannot believe so few people know of this!
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 12:57 PM
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6. Nobody is supposed to talk about corporate interests and subsidized protection.
The entitlement that shall never be mentioned.

Repeat after me: We were attacked and we might get attacked again!
Now write it 5000 times.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 01:00 PM
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8. VOTE UP on social bookmarking sites so general audience sees it (LINKS):
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 01:04 PM
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9. what always amazes me about the control of oil and pipelines motives is that most
newscasters are smart enough to know this, but can jabber on for hours about childish nonsense. They might as well be talking about how the alignment of planets makes occupying Afghanistan necessary.
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 01:09 PM
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10. k & r
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 01:26 PM
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11. kick
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 01:35 PM
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12. K&R
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 01:56 PM
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14. k&r - the real reason for the afhan occupation & buildup... nt
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 02:01 PM
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15. K & R
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 02:18 PM
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16. "...and that the US deployment area corresponds with the pipeline route."
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 02:18 PM
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17. Kick
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FlyByNight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 02:25 PM
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18. K & R
Not surprised. What the oil-draining MIC wants, it gets.

:mad:
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 03:37 PM
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19. I guess Obama is keeping his "transparency" promise, eh?
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 03:42 PM
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20. my letter to Obama on Afghanistan:
I am profoundly disturbed by your decision to send more troops to Afghanistan.

The Washington Post recently reported that there are about 100 members of al Qaeda left in Afghanistan and maybe another 300 in Pakistan--that hardly requires 100,000 troops to finish them off, and if we had cut off their funding and connections to the intelligence services in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, we wouldn't even have to worry about those stragglers.

What is more disturbing is the lack of honesty about why we are there. It is not to civilize the Taliban, who are no threat to us, and barely literate, nor is it to extinguish the last remnants of al Qaeda.

There is ample evidence that it is about protecting the Trans-Afghan pipeline that would benefit oil companies as Colin Powell's former chief of staff Lawrence Wilkerson has said, and former UK ambassador to Uzbekistan Craig Murray has added that the troop surge in Afghanistan precedes by a few months the start of construction on that pipeline.

Our democracy is neutered when the real reasons are government does things are only discussed behind closed doors, and the public is only told fairy tales that more and more realize are lies that insult our intelligence.

I could forgive you carrying water for the wealthy on this if you and the Democrats in Congress had given us a major domestic policy accomplishment, but even on your designated highest priority project, health care, your administration and Congress seem intent on putting public good second to toadying to the insurance industry.

We did not elect you to help the Democratic Party become the most trusted servant of corporate America. We wanted you to make Wall Street and the other corporate malefactors subordinate to the public good, submit to the rule of law, and take away their ability to change the laws to their own liking. I'm not seeing that happen yet.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 04:08 PM
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21. Damn fine writing. Very fine.
Didja send it?
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 04:13 PM
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23. yep. I copied that from white house contact page before I hit send.
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 04:13 PM
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24. +10
:applause:
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 04:22 PM
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26. thanks!
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 04:12 PM
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22. Really, really disgusted kick ...
... meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Sigh. I got fooled (again). :(
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 04:21 PM
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25. We expected him to clean up after Caligula, and instead he's wiped the vomit from
Caligula's lieutenants' mouths, pulled them away from sodomizing horses, and let them make his policy.
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whyverne Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 04:32 PM
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27. From Wikipedia on the TAP pipeline.
In January 1998, the Taliban signed an agreement that allowed the proposed project to proceed...The new deal on the pipeline was signed on 27 December 2002 by the leaders of Turkmenistan, Afghanistan and Pakistan.


So the Taliban lost out on the original deal. Something else for them to be mad about.

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unc70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 09:18 AM
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31. Remember the Enron connection with the pipeline
And a few billions in financing of the facility in India.


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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 05:14 PM
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28. kickeroo
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704wipes Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 10:21 PM
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29. your link goes to article on Brits protecting the opium trade?
"Britain is protecting the biggest heroin crop of all time"

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-469983/Britain-protecting-biggest-heroin-crop-time.html#ixzz0YambevQE

So where is the pipeline mentioned??
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Agony Donating Member (865 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 02:46 AM
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30. Look at the 2nd link in the OP, 5th paragraph... (K&R)
to reiterate...
Karzai comes directly from the Bush camp and was put in place because of his role with Unocal in developing the Trans Afghanistan Gas Pipeline project. That remains a chief strategic goal. The Asian Development Bank has agreed finance to start construction in Spring 2011. It is of course a total coincidence that 30,000 extra US troops will arrive six months before, and that the US (as opposed to other NATO forces) deployment area corresponds with the pipeline route.

the rest
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2009/12/obama_is...

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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 07:27 PM
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32. Shared this info everywhere I can.
Sorry, to late to rec. :(
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Katya Mullethov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 09:01 PM
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33. predictably kick
meh
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