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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 01:59 PM
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Glenn Greenwald: The commendably missing element from Obama's speech
Comparing video clips of George Bush's 2002 West Point speech on Afghanistan with the one Barack Obama delivered last night, Rachel Maddow argues that Obama has now embraced the fundamentals of the dreaded "Bush Doctrine": namely, we will fight wars even in countries that are not posing any threat to us in order to prevent some future threat that may (or may not) emerge. Rachel makes a persuasive albeit not conclusive case: like most Obama decisions, last night he incorporated enough of every side and paid homage to conflicting principles such that it's impossible to identify what he really believes ("civilian trials are a fundamental American value and now we'll deny them to many detainees" is quite similar to: "Afghanistan is in our absolute vital interest and we'll start leaving in 18 months"). He's convinced his admirers that this is a form of noble "pragmatism" but, far more often, it appears to be a mishmash of political calculations bereft of principle and plagued by numerous internal contradictions that make it impossible to understand, let alone defend. Everyone gets to read into it whatever they want to see.


While Obama's speech last night largely comported to what his aides spent days anonymously previewing, there was one (pleasantly) unexpected aspect: he commendably dispensed with the propagandistic pretext that we are fighting in Afghanistan in order to deliver freedom and democracy to that country and to improve the plight of Afghan women. Many Democrats (the self-proclaimed "liberal hawks") love to support American wars on the self-righteous ground that we're going to drop enough Freedom Bombs to liberate millions and invade other countries in order to re-make other peoples' cultures for their own good. In order to maximize support for his escalation, Obama -- like Bush so often did -- could easily have relied on that appeal to our national narcissism and exploited justifiable disgust for the Taliban in order to manipulate "liberal hawks" into supporting this war on human rights grounds. During the build-up to the speech, it was predicted by several influential Obama advisers that he would do exactly that. Indeed, when announcing his prior Afghanistan escalation in March, Obama played up the humanitarian rationale for this war.

But there was almost none of that in last night's speech. As Ben Smith correctly notes, Obama did not even mention -- let alone hype -- the issue of women's rights in Afghanistan. There were no grandiose claims that the justness of the war derives from our desire to defeat evil, tyrannical extremists and replace them with more humane and democratic leaders. To the contrary, he was commendably blunt that our true goal is not to improve the lives of Afghan citizens but rather: "Our overarching goal remains the same: to disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda." There were no promises to guarantee freedom and human rights to the Afghan people. To the contrary, he explicitly rejected a mission of broad nation-building "because it sets goals that are beyond what can be achieved at a reasonable cost and what we need to achieve to secure our interests"; he said he "refuse to set goals that go beyond our responsibility, our means, or our interests"; and even vowed to incorporate the convertible factions of the Taliban into the government.

Not only did he refrain from those manipulative appeals, he made explicitly clear that we are in Afghanistan to serve our own interests (as he perceives them), not to build a better nation for Afghans. Nation-building, he said, goes "beyond ... what we need to achieve to secure our interests" and "go beyond our responsibility." We're there to serve our interests and do nothing else. That should throw cold water on all on the preening fantasies of all but the blindest and most naive "liberal war supporters" that we're there to help the Afghan people.

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 02:07 PM
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1. The $10,000 question is how will building a pipeline to give India natural gas serve our interests?
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 02:10 PM
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3. Which contractors are building the pipeline and which American companies...
...will get the gas contracts (think ExxonMobil and partners' deal with Iraq).
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 02:14 PM
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4. Silly me. I did not know we were going to war to benefit CORPORATIONS WTF was I thinking?
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 02:16 PM
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5. We almost always go to war to benefit corporations - it's the American way. nt
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 02:23 PM
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6. Ask Hamid Karzai formally of Unocal n/t
Edited on Wed Dec-02-09 02:24 PM by spiritual_gunfighter
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 02:08 PM
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2. He had to save something for the next speech when we escalate again.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 04:05 PM
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7. Obama is.....ZEN !!!!!
"Everyone gets to read into it whatever they want to see."

He presents to us mere mortals a zen-like reality.
He is all projection of our consciousness.We have ....created him!!!

Wow...( falling to knees in awe)
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