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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 08:08 AM
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Chris Hedges: Liberals Are Useless
Edited on Mon Dec-07-09 08:13 AM by babylonsister
No solutions, just complaints. Is that a liberal trait? And he voted for Nader?


Liberals Are Useless

Posted on Dec 7, 2009

By Chris Hedges


Liberals are a useless lot. They talk about peace and do nothing to challenge our permanent war economy. They claim to support the working class, and vote for candidates that glibly defend the North American Free Trade Agreement. They insist they believe in welfare, the right to organize, universal health care and a host of other socially progressive causes, and will not risk stepping out of the mainstream to fight for them. The only talent they seem to possess is the ability to write abject, cloying letters to Barack Obama—as if he reads them—asking the president to come back to his “true” self. This sterile moral posturing, which is not only useless but humiliating, has made America’s liberal class an object of public derision.

I am not disappointed in Obama. I don’t feel betrayed. I don’t wonder when he is going to be Obama. I did not vote for the man. I vote socialist, which in my case meant Ralph Nader, but could have meant Cynthia McKinney. How can an organization with the oxymoronic title Progressives for Obama even exist? Liberal groups like these make political satire obsolete. Obama was and is a brand. He is a product of the Chicago political machine. He has been skillfully packaged as the new face of the corporate state. I don’t dislike Obama—I would much rather listen to him than his smug and venal predecessor—though I expected nothing but a continuation of the corporate rape of the country. And that is what he has delivered.

“You have a tug of war with one side pulling,” Ralph Nader told me when we met Saturday afternoon. “The corporate interests pull on the Democratic Party the way they pull on the Republican Party. If you are a ‘least-worst’ voter you don’t want to disturb John Kerry on the war, so you call off the anti-war demonstrations in 2004. You don’t want to disturb Obama because McCain is worse. And every four years both parties get worse. There is no pull. That is the dilemma of The Nation and The Progressive and other similar publications. There is no breaking point. What is the breaking point? The criminal war of aggression in Iraq? The escalation of the war in Afghanistan? Forty-five thousand people dying a year because they can’t afford health insurance? The hollowing out of communities and sending the jobs to fascist and communist regimes overseas that know how to put the workers in their place? There is no breaking point. And when there is no breaking point you do not have a moral compass.”

I save my anger for our bankrupt liberal intelligentsia of which, sadly, I guess I am a member. Liberals are the defeated, self-absorbed Mouse Man in Dostoevsky’s “Notes From Underground.” They embrace cynicism, a cloak for their cowardice and impotence. They, like Dostoevsky’s depraved character, have come to believe that the “conscious inertia” of the underground surpasses all other forms of existence. They too use inaction and empty moral posturing, not to affect change but to engage in an orgy of self-adulation and self-pity. They too refuse to act or engage with anyone not cowering in the underground. This choice does not satisfy the Mouse Man, as it does not satisfy our liberal class, but neither has the strength to change. The gravest danger we face as a nation is not from the far right, although it may well inherit power, but from a bankrupt liberal class that has lost the will to fight and the moral courage to stand up for what it espouses.

snip//

I learned to dislike liberals when I lived in Roxbury, the inner-city in Boston, as a seminary student at Harvard Divinity School. I commuted into Cambridge to hear professors and students talk about empowering people they never met. It was the time of the leftist Sandinista government in Nicaragua. Spending two weeks picking coffee in that country and then coming back and talking about it for the rest of the semester was the best way to “credentialize” yourself as a revolutionary. But few of these “revolutionaries” found the time to spend 20 minutes on the Green Line to see where human beings in their own city were being warehoused little better than animals. They liked the poor, but they did not like the smell of the poor. It was a lesson I never forgot.

I was also at the time a member of the Greater Boston YMCA boxing team. We fought on Saturday nights for $25 in arenas in working-class neighborhoods like Charlestown. My closest friends were construction workers and pot washers. They worked hard. They believed in unions. They wanted a better life, which few of them ever got. We used to run five miles after our nightly training, passing through the Mission Main and Mission Extension Housing Projects, and they would joke, “I hope we get mugged.” They knew precisely what to do with people who abused them. They may not have been liberal, they may not have finished high school, but they were far more grounded than most of those I studied with across the Charles River. They would have felt awkward, and would have been made to feel awkward, at the little gatherings of progressive and liberal intellectuals at Harvard, but you could trust and rely on them.

I went on to spend two decades as a war correspondent. The qualities inherent in good soldiers or Marines, like the qualities I found among those boxers, are qualities I admire—self-sacrifice, courage, the ability to make decisions under stress, the capacity to endure physical discomfort, and a fierce loyalty to those around you, even if it puts you in greater danger. If liberals had even a bit of their fortitude we could have avoided this mess. But they don’t. So here we are again, begging Obama to be Obama. He is Obama. Obama is not the problem. We are.

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/liberals_are_useless_20091206/
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 08:29 AM
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1. Hedges makes some valid points
I think that if we continue down the corporatist road, the pain will continue and spread to more and more people. At some point, the pain will be great enough for enough people that large groups will be snapped from their apathetic ways and start marching. Right now it seems that the mass hypnosis created by Madison Avenue in the service of our corporate overlords still has enough Americans convinced that the American Dream is real and attainable. As more people fall into abject poverty in America, things will change and it will probably not be pretty.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 08:32 AM
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2. a couple of good points, but a lot of bile to wade through to find them...
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 08:36 AM
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3. Are you saying "he voted for Nader" as some sort of rebuttal?
Because if you are, I'd say that shows that you really don't get it. Obama's actions have given us irrefutable evidence that electoral politics are bankrupt as a mechanism for "change we can believe in." I had "hoped" as much as the next person. I wept election night with sheer joy that I had lived to see the day when the US elected a Black man as President - something I had not expected to see in my lifetime. Wept with hope of the change that could auger. I had let "hope" supplant the cynicism that years and years of working to elect "lesser of two evils" candidates had engendered.

The Democratic Party is a useless collection of corporate tools. We need to be in the streets. And with out best hope of real change - Labor - firmly in Obama's pocket, we're not going to get it. Now, I weep for my grand-daughter, and the world she is likely to inherit, gift of our corrupt, quisling, hypocritical, sraps and bones "Party of the People."
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 08:58 AM
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5. Your cynicism is still in tact. And yes, I'm not impressed he voted for
Nader, but that's his choice. It's also the choice of the m$m to ask him to appear on their shows when he has such contempt for liberals, as covered in warts as they/we are. I will still vote for them vs. the other party and will hopefully vote in future for someone who actually has a chance of winning.

But rage on, and good luck with taking it to the streets. Been there, done that, to no avail at all.
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 08:45 AM
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4. and to the larger point, yes, "liberals are useless"
"liberals" will still be telling us to vote for corporate tool "lesser of two evils" while the polar bears and tigers die, the rainforests fall, the seas go sterile, and the world burns. They will invent justifications for dismembering and incinerating children, leaving "the poor" to starve and die from poisoned water, and cheer for "baby steps." A pox on both houses; they are every bit the tools of oligarchic/theocratic/fascistic overlords as are the useful tools on the Right.
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 11:25 AM
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16. and if we voted Nader
I'm sure he would have won in a landslide and everything would work out just great because we followed our convictions, right?
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 01:26 PM
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19. that's hardly the point
the point is that our votes for Obama seem to have gotten us no closer than a vote for Nader toward "change we can believe in." Case in point - I only read the headline, so am probably behind hand and have no idea what's happening/happened on this but O's recent nomination of a pesticide-pusher (and ex-lobbyist, I believe...hmmnnn...wasn't that one of the "changes?" - getting lobbyists our of government? - but I hardly bother these days to follow this Admin's actions) - as "Chief Agricultural Negotiator" or some such?

It rather seems to me that you are accepting "either-or" thinking when we need "something else" thinking. How can a sane and rational person think what we've been doing is working at all? Just look around. And please note the "we." I do not exempt myself. I've put one hell of a lot of energy into electoral politics, especially the last ten years.
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 04:06 PM
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24. I understand where you're coming from, but I don't agree it's the "same."
I have been disappointed in Obama in a few areas, yes, but I am absolutely certain that I would be disappointed in a President McCain in EVERY area. So, no, I don't see it as the "same".

And I am not "accepting" of the situation, far from it, I'm quite frustrated. I would love to see a strategy that will put more Nader-like people in power, but until I see some strategy better than "vote your conscience" I feel I must vote for and support the lesser of the two evils, I'm sorry. I wish I wasn't characterized as a sell-out for doing so. People like me want the same things you do. I support any sort of election reform that would get us there, be it IRV or anything else but until then, I'm not throwing away my vote so a Republican can benefit from it.
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 06:53 PM
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26. I don't call you a sell-out, but I must point out,McCain would not have our "disappointment"
Hell, as I said, did the same myself for years. I was not acting as a "sell-out," nor do I state anywhere that you are such. I was doing the best I felt I could; I am sure you are too. But had McCain been elected, we would not be talking about "disappointment" - we'd be talking about rage and resistance - for some of the same acts that Obama is perpetuating! If my motive is issues, not Party supremacy, then Obama earns the same resistance for the same acts. If the Democratic Party structure supports those acts, they too earn resistance, not allegiance.

So, while I do not call you a sell-out, I do object to your OP as I understand/interpret it, in which you seem to posit an "if you hate McCain and what he stands for, you must support Obama/the Democratic Party/including voting for R-lite Democrats/including supporting R-light positions by the Ds, including Obama." No. It does not work like that. For us, that is. It only works for the Oligarchic Corporatocracy.

I have told this story before, but I think it bears telling again: I work with a community org that works extensively on health care issues on the state level. We've fought for years (like 15+) to expand coverage piecemeal. We had many "successes," expanding State coverage for a number of groups. Then, a while back, someone at the org thought to do a count: in raw #s, how many uninsured when we started, how many current? Guess what? Despite our "successes" the numbers had not really changed. We had re-shuffled the deck, that's all. Some who weren't covered before had coverage, yes, and one can hardly point to that as a bad thing, can one? But other non-covered groups had grown. The #s were roughly the same - after years and years of very hard, good work.

That's what we're doing with the Ds - reshuffling the deck, not changing the game.
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 09:02 AM
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6. I like Hedges, but it's really not about "our self-esteem and integrity."
As in:

At what point do we stop being a doormat? At what point do we fight back? We may lose if we step outside the mainstream, but at least we will salvage our self-esteem and integrity.


It is really about changing things. And, unfortunately, I don't see anything in his article about how we do that. It's not enought to just fight back. We need a plan to win the fight.
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 10:38 AM
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9. You've hit the nail on the head
I really value Hedges, his observations are spot on but like you say fighting back is not enough, a plan is necessary.
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 07:06 PM
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28. I agree with you whole-heartedly on "self-esteem"
what a useless bit of pop-psych that phrase evokes. Not so much agreement on integrity, though you are right, it is not our "integrity" that is the objective. I just doubt we can achieve our objectives if we do NOT act with integrity.

I saw that particular sentence as creeping exhaustion and despair. Those are not useful either, but I can excuse someone falling into them now and again - I do, everyone I know does. Eventually, we get back on our feet and march on.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 02:47 AM
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34. the fight could begin with union organization
...a true workers' movement
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 09:07 AM
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7. Great summation of what I see and
why I voted for the Cynthia McKinney and the Green Party.

"The gravest danger we face as a nation is not from the far right, although it may well inherit power, but from a bankrupt liberal class that has lost the will to fight and the moral courage to stand up for what it espouses."

Obama was manufactured no less than George Bush. I am not surprised that Obama was elected nor do I see things improving because of what I have experienced substituting for social science classes in the public school system.

I can not tell you the depth of humiliation that I face going into the classroom. I mean it is like I have to apologize for wanting to teach or wanting to be there. It is not that I dont have experience (two MA's retiree from the federal government) and want to contribute. There is a genuine lack of caring about political science/government by contemporary high school students who are supposedly in advanced placement classes and from some of Maryland's leading high schools. They would rather be painting their faces to go off to the pep ralley. Furthermore, I cannot tell you how low high school level national state and local government has been dumbed down. I mean I have experienced and been engaged with foreign students who know more about US history and political science than their undergraduate counterparts from the US.

My final comment is that the value of this article is that it provides the philosophical ammunition against accepting what Obama is doing because he has been much better than a McCain/Palin administration, or the argument that Republican Party is dragging the country down.


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orwell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 10:30 AM
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8. Another anti-corporate rant...
...written by someone on a computer (made by evil corporations), published over the internet (more evil corporations), using power (more evil corporations). One assumes he drives a car (built by evil corporations), fueled by gas (provided by evil corporations and protected by the US military/industrial complex).

When the holier-than-thou Mr. Hedges writes on home-made paper with a quill pen from a self sufficient cabin near Walden's Pond, let me know...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 10:40 AM
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orwell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 11:16 AM
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14. Thanks for the kind words...
I guess you missed this part:

"Obama was and is a brand. He is a product of the Chicago political machine. He has been skillfully packaged as the new face of the corporate state. I don’t dislike Obama—I would much rather listen to him than his smug and venal predecessor—though I expected nothing but a continuation of the corporate rape of the country. And that is what he has delivered."
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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 10:49 AM
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12. Just cut it out.
This post sounds like a headline right off of the Drudge Report this morning: "
COPENHAGEN CLIMATE SUMMIT: 1,200 LIMOS, 140 PRIVATE PLANES..."

So, we should all stop working and advocating for the environment until we are all completely pure and non-corporate?

The point is that corporations have become too few and too big and have way too much political and economic power -- you don't have to be a 'socialist' to know this is a bad development for the vast majority of human beings on this planet. And, you certainly don't have to turn yourself into Ted Kaczynski to advocate for an end to 'corporate personhood' for example. Doing your writing on an Apple computer or driving a Prius does not make you a hypocrite.

Hedges makes some good points ... it's why I don't call myself a 'liberal' and prefer the label 'progressive' as a way to try and distinguish myself from those Hedges is describing as "useless."

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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 03:00 PM
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22. I work for a corporation but am against corporate dominated politics
We are living in another "Robber Baron" era and it has turned our democracy into a Potemkin democracy. We are actually living under a plutocracy thanks to Repukes and corporate whore Dems who fought for deregulation of banks and corporations.
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Walk away Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 10:39 AM
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10. This is a democracy. Unless we librals make up 51% of the country...
if we vote our hearts we will always loose to the wingnuts.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 06:59 PM
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27. Actually, it's not a democracy, nor a constitutional republic. It is an Inverted Totalitarian State
Google it.

new terms must be defined for our new metered, measured, propagandized, controlled (but with "plausible deniability" to give the slaves an undeserved sense of freedom) version of a very old snake with a bright, shiny new skin.
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dbmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 11:11 AM
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13. As long as you guys have your two party system..
..his main point is invalidated. You don't have a choice but to ride the one of the two horses you like best - or least.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 11:19 AM
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15. I think we should eat both horses.
And wash it down with home made wine.
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madamesilverspurs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 12:24 PM
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17. Same title on OP in GD
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 01:03 PM
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18. Couldn't agree more. Thank you Chris Hedges and babylonsister. My recent conversion
to progressive activist--note that I did not say Democratic activist--has shown me how few people are even minimally interested in DOING anything but reading and talking about the problems we face.

This summer's town hall meetings were attended by a few hundred advocates for healthcare reform when there are many thousands of us in this location who SAY that they want a Public Option. Those progressives in attendance are the same ones I see at many rallies and demonstrations around here. But their fellow liberals who give lip service to the same ideals are conspicuously absent when the time comes to stand up in public and show support for the liberal agenda.

I'm trying not to be too hard on the "silent minority" of liberals because for many years I was one.

Just think about the noise we progressives/liberals COULD make and the changes we COULD generate if we were as organized and as actively engaged as the right-wing idjits who seem to come out of the woodwork when there's an issue that needs their support.

Recommend.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 02:03 PM
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20. K&R.
I wish I could rec this more than once.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 02:42 PM
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21. Chris gets right to the point
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 03:36 PM
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23. is there a way to get instant runoff voting in national elections?
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 02:15 AM
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33. instant runoff voting is not additive. The votes have to be centrally counted
so if you want to have IRV for a national election, you need to truck those votes to a central location.
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certainot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 04:44 PM
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25. they're idiots because they ignore the talk radio monopoly that moves overton windows
with ease and swiftboats anything progressive right under their noses.

for 20 yrs, since reagan killed the Fairness Doctrine and hte GOP put together its 1000 radio station monopoly, it has been pushing the dems around with ease and giving a 10% minority 50% of the seats in the media, blasting the country with coordinated UNCONTESTED repetition unprecedented in US history.

and because there has been no written record to document its success at laundering lobbyist talking points and creating ready to order constituencies (dittoheads) for whatever cause or obstruction the GOP wants, and the left gets headaches listening to it, roves political 2X4 has been invisible.

almost all political analysis the last 20 years has been done in a talk radio vacuum and as a result the left still turns the dial and ignores the critical component in the disastrous last 20 years.

if the left had been paying attention we wouldn't have been lied into iraq, we wouldn't have had bush, or palin, and we'd probably be talking single payer instead of public option.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 07:39 PM
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29. blessings on Chris Hedges
When he was in divinity school, he learned the lessons well.
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skepticscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 08:57 PM
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30. We the voters must accept a large share of the blame
The cold hard fact is that we have made it virtually impossible for anyone to be elected to high office, and certainly to the office of president, without being much better at telling people what they want to hear than at telling them the unpleasant and unvarnished truth. Even politicians like Kucinich and McKinney, who have achieved some national stature, have still hit a glass ceiling, due mainly to their habit of speaking uncomfortable truths too loudly and too often.
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ShamelessHussy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 09:16 PM
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31. i think he needs to get out more
liberals have plenty of good ideas, they are just demonized by him and his lot.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 03:46 PM
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32. Good stuff, here. Thanks for the post. I would add this:
Liberals and progressives serve only as a trumped-up bugaboo for the media, the Democratic Party itself and (of course) the GOP. Frankly, there is very little left of the Left. After the McGovern debacle in '72, the Democratic Party has worked assiduously to rid itself of any type of liberal, New Deal, progressive or populist influences. It has steered mechanistically for the mythical middle; hence, Obama. What the Democratic Party retained was some deference to pro-reproductive rights, a nod to ever-hazier notions of "equal rights," and sort-of support for environmental improvement, and a disastrous clinging to gun-control. So fearful of ANY sort of ideological or philosophical grounding, the Dems cannot even get a feel for how effective/ineffective some of these issues are.

Liberals/progressives are out of touch as well. They do not understand their biggest obstacle: they are without a party.
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