Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Medicare Prepares Reversal on Covering All Antidepressants and Antipsychotics

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Editorials & Other Articles Donate to DU
 
nightrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 10:58 AM
Original message
Medicare Prepares Reversal on Covering All Antidepressants and Antipsychotics
Here we go--reducing care to those on Medicare--this is the Obama Administration continuing Bush policies and issuing new directives. How do you like them apples?

------------
December 9, 2009
Psychiatric Times. Vol. 26 No. 12
Stephen Barlas

http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/display/article/10168/1491812?verify=0



The Medicare program appears to have reversed itself and now is seriously considering removing anti-depressants and antipsychotics from its “protected” status on Part D drug plan formularies. Six drug categories—immunosuppressants, antidepressants, antipsychotics, anticonvulsants, antiretrovirals, and antineo-plastics—are protected. This means that Part D plans must offer “all or substantially all” of the chemically distinct products in those categories. Elsewhere on the formulary, the plan needs to offer only 2 product selections in each category, often a brand name and a generic substitute.

“I am not naive; they are reserving the right at a future date to whack out antidepressants and antipsychotics,” acknowledged Andrew Sperling, director of federal legislative advocacy for the National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI).

The announcement by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) that it would consider elimination of some or all of the 6 protected categories came in the form of a proposed rule issued on October 22. That proposed rule revised 2 key definitions the CMS had adopted in an interim final rule it published on January 16, 2009. The definitions implement new requirements for Part D drug coverage established by a 2008 congressional law. The comments that came in over the next few months on those interim definitions essentially convinced the CMS that the definitions the agency proposed in January—which would determine the future of the protected categories—were too broad and needed to be narrowed. The Obama CMS essentially reversed Bush administration decisions and sided with the Part D drug plans and their pharmacy benefit managers and against drug manufacturers and patient advocacy groups, such as the American Psychiatric Association (APA) and NAMI.

“I think it has always been a concern for APA that CMS would discontinue the protection for 1 or 2 of the classes,” said Jennifer Tassler, deputy director for regulatory affairs at the APA. “We are looking at the rule and plan to discuss it with CMS and other advocacy groups. We will certainly be filing comments on the rule, as we did on the interim rule.”

Charles Cote, director of public affairs for the Pharmaceutical Care Management Association, whose March 2009 comments urged the CMS to narrow the scope of its January definitions, said, “The ‘protected classes’ concept presents a step backward and, unfortunately, only ‘protects’ the pricing policies of drug manufacturers.”

-------------------
Amazing and disgusting that any Administration would reduce access to medications for one of the primary issues that older people have to deal with! Preserving Pharma profits again.

use above link to read further

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 11:07 AM
Response to Original message
1. In what way is the Obama administration involved in this? I did not see anything in the article
indicating administration involvement?

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nightrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 11:16 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. read the whole article. The Obama Administration is listed by name several times.
Note the dates listed in the article, and whose Administrations they are.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 11:20 AM
Response to Reply #2
4. Thanks /nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nightrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 11:26 AM
Response to Reply #4
6. you're welcome
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 11:33 AM
Response to Reply #6
7. It was even in your exerpt above the line. It is really sad what is happening, and unfortunately
we have very little options unless we can elect more progressives into office, not an easy task



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 11:18 AM
Response to Original message
3. I guess old(er) people don't get depressed. We'll just have to kill ourselves when we get
old enough for Medicare. That should lower the overall costs of the program even more.

Great move!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nightrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 11:25 AM
Response to Reply #3
5. horrifying what some will propose in order to preserve pharma profits!
Those secret 2009 spring and summer meetings between the Obama Administration people (Rahm, etc) and Pharma and the insurance lobbyists must have been pretty disgusting.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 12:07 PM
Response to Reply #5
12. How will this preserve pharma profits? n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nightrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 12:47 PM
Response to Reply #12
15. here are some important details...
from the article--

"While the CMS avoided explicitly forecasting how many of the 6 categories would remain protected, it definitely indicates there will be changes. Its regulatory analysis now forecasts increased Part D costs of $1.6 billion over the 2010 through 2019 period—a considerable reduction from its $4.9 billion estimate on January 16."

If these meds which some older people have been using and have been shown to be effective for them, are not covered by Part D, then people who have been using them would have to purchase them on their own, or do without (dangerous). Private pay is almost never cheaper than Part D payment to pharmaceutical corporations.

Recall that big Pharma just lowered the cost of NON-generics to 50%, recall that even Howard Dean spoke to Congress in favor of extending biologics' period of trademark to 12 years until they became generic. Recall that there is no cheaper re-importation of drugs, nor any negotiation with pharmaceutical corporations on the prices of drugs. Drug corporations are rigging it so they continue to reap their exhorbitant profits. People lose, they win. Not people can afford their treatment.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 12:12 PM
Response to Reply #3
14. Before doing oneself in....
please be so kind to reduce the number of fat cats who are making the rules. Thank you for your attention. This has been a public announcement.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 04:18 PM
Response to Reply #3
21. What's worse than depression:
People on drugs for psychosis and manic-depression, etc. It's hard enough sometime to keep people afflicted with those problems on a regimen...if they had to personally come up with the money for them (and they aren't cheap) there is less chance they will take them, leading to what would best be reffered to as 'unfortunate incidents' as they become a danger to themselves and others...

Supplying these drugs freely whenever necessary seems to be a matter of public safety and well within the responsibility of government.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nightrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 05:05 PM
Response to Reply #21
22. yes. from an emotional health perspective, it would be dangerous to those
taking the meds and getting a positive effect from them, to be forced to change to something else or to have to stop taking them. But, perhaps that's not the purpose. I think the intent of the pharmaceutical corps is to rake in the bucks, they're not humanitarians.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 11:47 AM
Response to Original message
8. So if I sign on to Medicare when eligible (Feb),
can I AVOID signing on to Prescription coverage? If anyone knows. Thanks
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 12:00 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. Yes, you can ask to be removed from the Part D of Medicare.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 12:06 PM
Response to Reply #9
10. Good.
Thanks.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 12:08 PM
Response to Reply #8
13. you can choose a plan that covers these drugs.
people do choose plans based on their own daily meds. not that you can necessarily predict the future.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hestia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 02:07 PM
Response to Reply #8
18. You can't really avoid the Part D - if you do not sign up now, and later, start
to take medications for acute diseases or other problems, you will be charged 1% for every month that you qualified for Part D and did not have it. My mother pays 7% over the costs of her premium because of the penalty, and will do so for her lifetime, or until something changes. The lowest cost for a Part D plan with no medications is about $14 per month. It does have tiers if you have to have prescriptions, but this year most plans have a deductible - $250-$310 - if there is no deductible, the plans are $30-$40 per month.

Heads you lose, tails they win
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 03:53 PM
Response to Reply #18
19. Thanks for the info.
As usual with such decisions, nothing's simple!

I'm covered w. husband's fehb plan, which is very good, but may or may not stay married to him (separated now) and may or may not want to continue his coverage. Maybe I'll stay where I am until I HAVE to leave for some reason, knowing that I'll be able to do Medicare when I want to. (I take anti-depress meds now, and expect to do so indefinitely.)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 12:06 PM
Response to Original message
11. They are "considering." Nothing has happened yet. That means people
who care should be speaking up to their representatives.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 12:56 PM
Response to Reply #11
16. Right. Like they were "considering" taking the PO out of the HC bill
How did our speaking out work on that?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hatchling Donating Member (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 01:53 PM
Response to Reply #16
17. +1000!
:thumbsup:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 03:55 PM
Response to Reply #16
20. More like some of them were hoping to put one in, and we ALL were.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 04:45 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Editorials & Other Articles Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC