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bloomington-lib Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 08:29 PM
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Iranians Want Regime Change
Edited on Tue Dec-29-09 08:33 PM by bloomington-lib
By AFSHIN ELLIAN WSJ

Khamenei is losing the support of the clergy and military.

Six months ago, Iranians went to the streets, chanting "Where is my vote?" This is how the Green Revolution started. The protesters now no longer merely seek democratic elections but want regime change. Their new slogans are: "Khamenei is a murderer and his rule is unjust," "Neither Gaza nor Lebanon, I only give my life for Iran," and "Independence, Freedom and an Iranian Republic." In other words, they demand a stop to Iran's support for terrorists in Palestine, Lebanon and Iraq; the separation of state and religion; and consider Ayatollah Ali Khamenei as public enemy No. 1.

By answering this summer's peaceful calls for democratic elections with violence, the Supreme Leader may have sealed his own fate. In June and July alone, more than 5,000 protestors were arrested and an unknown number of them killed. The use of such extreme violence at a time in which mass communication is no longer the monopoly of the government has led to the steady decline of the regime's credibility. The lies no longer work. Nobody in Iran believes the state media's propaganda that blames Israel and the U.K. for the death of Neda Agha Soltan, the young woman murdered by security forces, whose death throes captured on a phone camera shocked the world.

The revelations of rape and torture in the Kahrizak detention center by security officials who invoked the name of Allah and the Shiite Imam as they tormented their young victims particularly outraged Iranians. This type of rape also occurred in the 1980's, but back then no one would believe those stories. But this time it is different. The victims are speaking out and, as importantly, they have found prominent support in Mehdi Karroubi, a clergyman and former president of the parliament. Many ayatollahs not linked to the regime have voiced their horror as well. The unity which was forced between the religious cast and the regime has been torn apart by these events. As a result, the rulers' moral standing has suffered a blow from which it may not recover, for it is the religious authority of the ayatollahs which gives the theocratic regime its legitimacy.

These dissident ayatollahs—such as the late Ayatollah Hossein Ali Montazeri, who in a famous fatwa last summer declared the regime neither Islamic nor a republic—are no longer alone in turning against Khamenei. Even religious scholars who until recently did not openly defy the regime, have now joined the calls of the opposition. There is the well-respected Ayatollah Yussuf Sanai, for example, who was a friend of Khamenei, who went so far as to state that Khamenei's continuing struggle for power is against Sharia law. There is Ayatollah Mousavi Ardebili, the former president of the judicial branch of Iran, who this summer openly declared his solidarity with the dissident Ayatollah Montazeri. And there are the ayatollahs Bayat Zanjani, Dastghaib, and Taheri who have aligned themselves with the protesting masses. Even Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani in neighboring Iraq—who is held in great esteem by Shiites also in Iran—has declared that the oppression of the demonstrators is un-Islamic.

All this is significant because it broadens the protests to a truly popular movement. The students and educated class don't need fatwas to turn against the regime. But due to the criticism by prominent ayatollahs, the regime is losing its moral legitimacy even in the eyes of less educated and more pious Iranians.

The regime is not only losing the clergy but also the military. The communiqués from opposition groups and those that reach me personally all indicate that a large part of the Revolutionary Guards is no longer willing to be used as an instrument of oppression. Video images from nearly every demonstration show Revolutionary Guards members joining ranks with the protesters. A declaration signed by air force and army officers and published on the Internet warned radical Revolutionary Guards members to "Stop the violence against your own population."


You can find the rest at http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703510304574625713733452476.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
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BunkerHill24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 08:44 PM
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1. BS headline...
Edited on Tue Dec-29-09 08:45 PM by BunkerHill24
US Administration want regime change in Iran....whilst spending millions of US taxpayers money on illegal regime change.
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bloomington-lib Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 09:02 PM
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2. I'm guessing this guy from Iran probably knows
more about this than you. I could be wrong, but I wouldn't put my money on you. With everyone shouting "death to the dictator" and more people from every level showing support for the green movement, I'd say he's probably right on. You are right that the US Admin wants a regime change, but that hardly makes the headline BS.
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BunkerHill24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 09:17 PM
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3. Where there is smoke there is a fire...
Here are some incriminating evidence why the international community are suspicious the US involvement in riots in Iran.

Has the U.S. Played a Role in Fomenting Unrest During Iran’s Election?
http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2009/06/23/has-the-u-s-played-a-role-in-fomenting-unrest-during-irans-election/

U.S. grants support to Iranian dissidents
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-06-25-iran-money_N.htm

Iranian Civil Society and the Role of U.S. Foreign Policy

\http://www.cfr.org/publication/13503/
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 10:31 PM
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4. Seems hopeful. Recommended.
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