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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 11:54 PM
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Obama promises to pursue a public option later
Source: Ezra Klein - Washington Post

Obama promises to pursue a public option later...

...“The meeting with President Obama today was productive and necessary, and I was glad to hear him speak frankly about where we stand on health care legislation. He said the public option – a well-known and long-standing progressive priority – lacks enough Senate support to be included in the final package. However, he personally committed to pursue a public option after passage of the current bill.

I remain concerned about elements of the bill, but was encouraged by the president’s outreach and interest in a substantive discussion. We agree that expanding health care access and quality, while bringing down costs, is a top priority this year, and I intend to continue playing a constructive role until Congress holds its final vote.”


I've long wondered why Obama didn't promise this a while ago. A bill offering a public option and Medicare buy-in to age 55 would be a popular bill, and a good bill, and could be done after health-care reform had passed. The administration and others like to say that the Senate legislation is just a start, and they should begin acting on that belief. Pass the start, and then begin trying to make it better with smaller, discrete bills that are easier to message and pass.


Read more: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 11:55 PM
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1. Lame. The football has been pulled away from me too many times on this issue. nt
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Sub Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 11:56 PM
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2. Gee. Another feel-good, do-nothing promise from Obama.
It's starting to sound more and more like a broken record every day.

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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 11:56 PM
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3. I need it NOW. And Captain Hilts puts it perfectly. I'm through with hoping that
I'll be able to get health care.
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gleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 11:58 PM
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4. If anyone at this late date ...
still believes Obama's promises after all the lies and deceptions he has visited on the American
people, then I have some swamp land I can sell to them. It's good land, honest and I promise to drain it later.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 12:13 AM
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11. I totally disagree with you...
President has kept MANY of his campaign promises so far and MANY MANY more are In the Works.
Promises Kept: 96
Promises In the Works: 272
Link to the Obameter on the right side of the page: http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 12:16 AM
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13. DLC rahmwash!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 12:16 AM
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SPedigrees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 12:17 AM
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15. Nice to see a voice of reason on this thread. nt
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 11:31 AM
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50. Unfortunately, the ones he kept --
are crap -- like escalating Afghanistan and bombing the crap out of Pakistan.

The ones he's broken or failed to pursue are the ones most important to Americans.
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Iowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 01:48 AM
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39. +1
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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 12:01 AM
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5. I Will Not Be Satisfied If The Public Option Is...


....not a part of this..... It's another opportunity to cave to BIG PHARMA and Insurance Lobbyist....

....Basically what Obama is saying lets pass the crap first and then hope you all forget about the public option until I am out of office in 2013.........SAD
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 12:05 AM
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6. Promises, promises, promises. n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 12:10 AM
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 12:11 AM
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8. Why later? Utter the words MEDICARE FOR ALL and entire nation will back him--!!
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 12:53 AM
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24. Oh! But Single Payer is "too radical" don'tcha know?
:eyes:

Obama threw healthcare reform under the bus with that little comment.

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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 12:12 AM
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9. super-lame. yeah, sure. "later". if you can't do it now, you can't do it. don't bullshit it.
Edited on Fri Mar-05-10 12:13 AM by Hannah Bell
because when you bullshit it, you reveal that you have no respect for the voters, & no concern about actually providing them with a workable health care program.
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tiny elvis Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 01:34 AM
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37. remember thepoorman.net?
original archives are gone from the time he wrote that great piece:
Phase II Is Where You Go Fuck Yourself
when repub promises to do the right thing were said to be coming in an unscheduled phase two of a process
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 12:12 AM
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10. I wish you could issue a no-confidence recall on Presidents.
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Iowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 01:50 AM
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40. +1
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jtuck004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 12:16 AM
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12. Just show me the Carfax. n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 12:18 AM
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16. "A statement just released by the Grivalja press office"
So this is Grivalja's statement? Who exactly are people expecting to oppose this bill?

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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 01:00 AM
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28. The insurance industry is backing this bill. They dodged a bullet. nt
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GinaMaria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 07:51 PM
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56. the insurance companies (top 5 CEOs) are in DC right now
they've been meeting with Obama and his admin. Have the single payer, Medicare for anyone who wants it or public option people been asked to the table? Have they ever? How many times have insurance execs and lobbyists met with Obama?
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 12:20 AM
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17. "don't make promises you can't keep"
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 12:27 AM
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18. This belongs in 'Latest Breaking Fairy Stories' not LBN!
:shrug:
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 12:29 AM
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19. how very 2003 of him
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 12:32 AM
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20. Anyone "trusting" that to be the case is just foolish. Raul has been trying to barter
and obviously isn't very good at this.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 12:39 AM
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21. Well Obama, you can have you Secret Service protection later too. You're
pretty careless of other peoples' lives, especially the poor & the military.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 12:44 AM
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22. Well, I will thank the President..
Thanks, President Obama & and your Team, for all your hard work:patriot::patriot:
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 12:57 AM
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26. I am sorry what? Hard work? What exactly have they done?
So far we got nothing. NOTHING. And at best we might get a piece of garbage written by the damn health insurance companies.

Yeah thanks a lot Obama
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 01:20 AM
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33. He's done a hellava lot more than those
sitting around throwing cheap shots over the internet.
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Sub Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 02:05 AM
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41. You're right. At least I haven't capitulated to the Republicans for the past 13 months.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 12:26 PM
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51. First of all not very much has been done. Second, it's their job to get something done.
I do my part, but it falls on deaf ears. Incumbent Democrats cant be replaced unless by repukes. Third, I feel the president could have done a lot more, to help the process and to let the people know he is fighting for us and not the insurance companies.

Why isnt the government negotiating drug prices for Medicare? The president sold us out there. He didnt even try for single payer, and isnt trying for a real PO either.

The Senate bill is better than death in the streets but that's no way to judge something. It isnt near what we need.

And I very much resent you and your friends dismissing complaints about this admin as "throwing cheap shots". Is it a cheap shot to say that Pres Obama sold us out to big pharma over drug price negotiations?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 02:27 AM
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 12:52 AM
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23. Uh huh. Right.
And there's a bridge in Brooklyn for sale too.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 12:55 AM
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25. What utter bullshit.
Crap.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 12:59 AM
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27. Is this the same Obama who voted for FISA with promises to go back and retool it later on?
Edited on Fri Mar-05-10 01:00 AM by Beacool
:eyes:
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 01:05 AM
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29. if he spent a tenth of the time twisting arms of DLCers that he did wooing Republicans, he'd have
the votes in the Senate for the public option.
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webDude Donating Member (830 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 01:11 AM
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30. Ah! Well, I believe him! Don't you? (dick me around and...
...lie some more? Are you kidding?).
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 01:18 AM
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31. "those who seek to make revolution by halves dig their own graves" (nt)
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 01:18 AM
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32. It is now or never. I really think the time is right now.
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 01:21 AM
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34.  Patriot Act.... Torture... NAFTA... .. Your Check is in the mail....
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 01:21 AM
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35. I could throw up.
This is what he did with his momentum? His sweeping majority? Sucked up to the Republicans until he had no power left at all?

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Eric Condon Donating Member (761 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 01:30 AM
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36. Justice delayed...
you know the rest.
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western mass Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 01:47 AM
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38. Thanks, Barack!

Signed,

the suckers
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 02:08 AM
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42. So, for all of you people out there who are currently on fire
Edited on Fri Mar-05-10 02:08 AM by Orrex
Please be patient; we'll get you a bucket later.
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NecklyTyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 06:34 AM
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44. I would like to see some realistic proposals for single payer
The only real solution to the health care crisis is to go to a single payer system. All of the current reforms and public option ideas are little more than lip service to a life and death issue
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 07:55 AM
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45. No offense, but is Ezra like 22 or something? His writing is rough
and he just seems open faced and Pollyanna like. Dear wee Ezra, when a politician says that later he will be able to do that which right now he simply refuses to try to do, and that politician has a long history of mendacity and shifting 'positions' on the issue, that politician is engaging in what we adults call 'bullshit'. He's lying. He's saying whatever he thinks will sell his agenda.
So what is this Klein, 23? 12? Or is he just stupid as a box of rocks?
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RedstDem Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 08:19 AM
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46. Be nice if we could believe him, but theres that old saying in Texas
Fool me once, shame on shame on you, fool me twice, uh....cant get fooled agin.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 09:27 AM
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47. When? After the winger take over the house and senate next year?
What an epic disappointment
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 09:45 AM
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48. Yeah, "later"...
:eyes:
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 11:28 AM
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49. Uh yeah. And I'm Cleopatra.
:eyes:

There is simply no chance this is going to happen. We are going to be losing seats at the midterm -- the chance we will continue to have the votes for a public option or Medicare buy-in become slim to none.

If it doesn't happen now, it just is not going to happen for a very long time.
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Daveparts still Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 12:52 PM
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52. Just yesterday
he told conservative Democrats if they didn't pass the Senate version it would be a generation before health care was addressed again. promises, promises, pass what's good for the corporations now and we'll give the public what it wants later.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 01:24 PM
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53. Another empty promise.
Most of us can not afford to wait until Obama and blue dogs get around to passing real health reform.


Time is not on our side. Waiting is not an option.
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FlyByNight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 01:44 PM
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54. I'll believe that when I see it
Frankly, we've heard this kind of horse-shit before.

Actions speak louder than words, no matter the eloquence, Mr. President.

:eyes:
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 04:41 PM
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55. More lipstick, please.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 08:03 PM
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57. "Later, DUDE" ..."I've got a BIG AGENDA and much Food on My Plate."
:eyes:
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 09:15 PM
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58. public option delayed is public option denied
where have I heard that before? :shrug:
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