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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-10 07:45 PM
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Social Security: The Next Front in the Class War
Social Security: The Next Front in the Class War
By: masaccio Friday March 26, 2010 12:20 pm

There was another salvo in the shock and awe campaign to cure the deficit by cutting Social Security in the New York Times on Monday. The article claims that even before his inauguration President Obama wanted to “signal seriousness” on Social Security, by making the hard decisions on his watch. That’s easy to translate now: the President hasn’t alienated a huge section of the people who voted for him, and this is a great way to do it.

Another salvo came Thursday. The Congressional Budget Office told the NYT that revenues from FICA will not be sufficient to pay the entire cost of Social Security this year. No matter that the amount is small, and covered by interest on the securities held by the Social Security Trust Fund. Something must be done. Steny Hoyer shows the path:

… the moderate Democrat who is the House majority leader, gave a speech this month in which he called for the two parties to compromise on a mix of tax increases and benefit reductions to avert fiscal chaos. Among his options were proposals to gradually raise the retirement age for future Social Security recipients and to reduce benefits for those with high incomes.

That is just ludicrous. Why should average workers pay?

Alan Greenspan and others engineered a revision to the Social Security system in the mid-80s to meet the shortfall between revenues and payouts. The idea was that all of us would pay increased FICA and the money would be saved in a trust fund for this very day, when it is needed to fund the system. That created an immediate influx of money to the general fund of the Treasury. It was used to buy a special form of treasury bonds. The Trust Fund now holds something like $2.5 trillion of this unmarketable security.

The money was not invested into productive business or research and development or infrastructure. Those were left to languish into the current state of decrepitude. Instead, the money was used to hide the size of the deficits created by the Reagan and Bush tax cuts for the wealthy. Under the guise of protecting Social Security, Reagan and Bush and the complicit Congress raised taxes on average Americans and reduced taxes on the richest Americans.

The justification for these enormous tax cuts for the rich was the crazy “trickle-down” theory, that the rich would invest the money wisely and productively, and the entire nation would benefit from new production. The reality is that the rich didn’t invest in productive activities. They exported jobs to cheaper labor markets, and used their tax cuts and profits to speculate in financial markets. By 2008, hedge funds had some $2.5 trillion under management by one estimate . Hedge funds make money by speculating, not investing.

Hundreds of billions more, and more hundreds of billions in bank loans, went into private equity funds. The point of these funds is to pile debt on companies, cut costs and let the company sink or swim. This money didn’t benefit anyone except the rich, and the failed loans contributed to the cost of the Great Crash.

Trickle-down is a failed conservative talking point. Now we get the equally noxious conservative solution for Social Security: cut benefits and raise FICA taxes.

There is exactly one fair solution. We raise income taxes on the richest Americans, and use the money to buy back the treasury securities that are held by the Social Security Trust Fund. There is no other fair solution. Every American, including the rich, pays into the trust fund on an equal basis. Everyone should be treated equally on account of our equal contributions.

More at......
http://firedoglake.com/2010/03/26/social-security-the-next-front-in-the-class-war/
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-10 07:52 PM
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1. When are they going to simply fucking get it?
Edited on Sat Mar-27-10 07:52 PM by Sebastian Doyle
This country started going into the toilet in 1981, and aside from a few "bubble economies" that provide temporary rebounds, it continues to circle the drain. And even the bubbles really haven't done shit since 2000, for anybody but the ultra criminal rich.

Fuck Reaganomics. Fuck Clintonomics. Fuck each and every economic policy, tax cut, and deregulation of the last 30 years. Reverse every goddamn last one of them, get this country back the way God almighty and His servant Franklin Delano Roosevelt intended, and be the greatest fucking country on Earth again.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 08:29 AM
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9. If only your president was
in favor of reversing these bad decisions. It appears to me that he subscribes to the Greenspan solutions.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 09:03 AM
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12. It is far too late for that. The Conservatives rule the land,
both political parties, and own the public media. A traditional Dem cannot even find refuge from the anti-Liberal/Progressive fringe even on a site like DU. Conservatives may be far smaller in number, but they are much stronger in financial resources, public access and, unfortunately, determination. Lets face it, they have successfully managed to convince millions of Liberals to self identify as Conservatives. America has been under a highly organized attack for years now, and the enemy is not from abroad.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-10 08:16 PM
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2. It would help considerably if we stopped declaring war on the mideast
and got out.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 08:30 AM
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10. But but but
we have to defend our freedoms!
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-10 08:54 PM
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3. Remove the $75K cap and it'll never run out. n/t
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-10 09:04 PM
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4. That is the only "fair" solution, and also solves all future problems
with solvency of the trust fund. We could also roll back the retirement age to 65 like it used to be. I already need to wait until I'm 67 to collect (retire). If they push it back to 70, the chances of ever collecting any gets much slimmer.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 08:32 AM
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11. Push it back to 70
and the government will continue to spend it for other than what was intended.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 04:24 AM
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7. that cap is up way over $100k right now....
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 11:14 AM
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13. Well, get rid of the cap to include multi-billionaires
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 02:43 PM
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15. They should lift the cap...
But they should also stop taxing benefits twice for people who recieve benifits but have substantial other income.

It's taxing twice and nobody, I mean nobody, should have their income taxed twice.
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dwilso40641 Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-10 10:36 PM
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5. There is no reason
that elected officials should be able to receive a pension from us at a younger age than we can collect Social Security.
They spent our money and now want to punish us.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-10 11:13 PM
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6. +1
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D-Lee Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 08:01 AM
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8. First, they kept worker incomes down; now, go for the retiree. Hmm ... nt
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nilram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 02:10 PM
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14. k&r
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