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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 02:59 PM
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U.S. plan to arm Afghan militia founders on tribal rivalries
U.S. plan to arm Afghan militia founders on tribal rivalries
By Anand Gopal, McClatchy Newspapers 2 hrs 39 mins ago

ACHIN, Afghanistan — The detritus of tribal war litters the road that leads into this quiet mountain hamlet in eastern Afghanistan . The charred bodies of vehicles and the skeletal remains of destroyed houses fill the desert that flanks the road. Most of the shops in the main bazaar are shuttered, and some residents have packed up and left.

Achin district, a home of the Shinwari tribe, is part of an ambitious countrywide U.S. push to fund tribal militias to stand against the Taliban and stabilize the violence-plagued region. A months-long feud between Shinwari clans has brought Achin to a standstill, however, threatening to undermine the effort and illustrating the difficulties in enlisting tribes to combat the insurgency.

The initiative encourages tribes and other community groups in a number of areas around the country to defend their territory from the Taliban . A similar effort in Iraq is widely credited with diminishing the violence there.

The groups don't receive weapons — which already are plentiful in Afghanistan — but U.S. Special Operations Forces provide money and in some cases training. The militias are meant to complement uniformed Afghan forces and Western troops.

Locals say that tribal dynamics complicate such initiatives, however. "We want to solve the Taliban problem, but not cause a whole series of other problems in the process," said Moyen Shah, the deputy head of the provincial council, which helps govern the eastern province of Nangarhar.

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Military officials say that the use of militias is subordinated to the development of Afghan security forces. The "over-reliance on tribal- or community-based security can promote instability or abuses of power that are associated with warlordism," said U.S. Navy Lt. Cmdr. Thomas Porter , a spokesman with the international forces. "At the same time, we've learned that it's not productive to work against the grain of Afghan culture, which means respecting the existing system of tribal and communal ties."

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20100427/wl_mcclatchy/3489192
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 04:07 PM
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1. But I don't understand the problem:
after all, it worked out so well for us in the 80s.

;-)
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 08:05 PM
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2. Desperate times call for desperate measures.
And that is all this is, a desperate measure.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 08:13 PM
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3. Our hubris is what is keeping us in Afghanistan, and it is our hubris that will bite us in the ass!
This is the same mistake we made in Vietnam! We just never understood, or cared to understand, the history and culture of those we are trying to "help" with our fatally flawed "freedom and democracy."
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graycem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 02:39 AM
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4. Wait, what?
Didn't we "create" Osama Bin Laden under similar circumstances? Talk about history repeating itself.
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