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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:11 AM Original message |
Obama Says Liberal Courts May Have Overreached |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
2. oh for god's sake |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
3. talk about spinning a story 180 degrees from the TRUTH |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:35 AM Response to Reply #3 |
27. Charlie Savage is neither stupid nor dishonest. The concern is valid |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:37 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Bullshit, Savage lied or was totally confused as to what the President said |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:43 AM Response to Reply #30 |
34. I READ the entire piece, seems you have no concern about |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 10:21 AM Response to Reply #27 |
67. Seems to be a misunderstanding and/or overstatement to me. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
4. OMG! Did I ever "mis-read" this politician two years ago? |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:17 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Develop your critical reading skills |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:28 AM Response to Reply #6 |
19. Stop playing "professor" ... few people are all-knowing. It reflects poorly on us all. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:31 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Damn it! the facts matter |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:54 AM Response to Reply #23 |
38. Your skewed opinion paraded around as "facts?" No, you can't deny what's in quotes. |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:25 AM Response to Reply #4 |
15. Maybe you did - or maybe you believe the mischaracterization of the remarks... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:17 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Who is a Republican? |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:17 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Yep |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:22 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. But I would add: "a moderate one" who democrats can reason with. |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:23 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Read the remarks, not the article. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:29 AM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Sadly many people will believe what they WANT to believe |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:35 AM Response to Reply #20 |
28. Let's just say, your TRUTH and mine diverge? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:58 AM Response to Reply #13 |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 11:22 AM Response to Reply #5 |
42. Obama is not a Republican, and that is NOT what Savage is suggesting. |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
9. That has got to be one of the most slanted and mis-skewed pieces I've ever read. |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:23 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. care to elaborate? |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:29 AM Response to Reply #14 |
21. First, go read or listen to what the President said. And then read this POS article. |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 01:49 PM Response to Reply #21 |
45. so what exactly was obama trying to imply with this statement? |
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tyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:25 AM Response to Reply #9 |
16. No kidding |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:27 AM Response to Reply #9 |
17. yes it is, that's why it's popular with the Anti-Obama crowd |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
11. He said no such thing. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:27 AM Response to Reply #11 |
18. Very true, but why let facts and the truth stand in the way? |
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suzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:29 AM Response to Reply #11 |
22. But that would meaning giving up today's reason to dislike Obama. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:34 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. We can't have that could we? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:38 AM Response to Reply #22 |
31. Yes, nothing we present has any veracity at all ... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 02:53 PM Response to Reply #31 |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:39 AM Response to Reply #11 |
32. Savage quoted Obama, and explain why Obama would not refer |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
24. What he REALLY said: 'Conservatives are hypocrites when they paint only liberal courts as 'activist' |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:34 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. EXACTLY!!!!! |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:36 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. ... |
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Aramchek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:42 AM Response to Reply #29 |
33. wow, you really have gone off the deep end |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:46 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. May I also say that you are not a paragon of self-restraint yourself? |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:45 AM Response to Reply #24 |
35. He added, “The concept of judicial restraint cuts both ways.” |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:53 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Why did you post this NYT version of the story when there are dozens out there without the |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:59 AM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Why don't you post that article? These quotes are subject to OPINION/COMMENTARY. |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 11:19 AM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Because I think for myself. There is nothing in Savages piece |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 01:14 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Perhaps because Obama made absolutely no references to any cases, only the 2 people who |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 01:53 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. “The concept of judicial restraint cuts both ways.” |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 02:05 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. What can I say? To me, it means the concept of judicial restraint cuts both ways. See nothing wrong |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 02:29 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. but why even bring it up? |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 02:48 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. "Where did he do this?" |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 03:07 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. I truly don't see his statement as saying the liberal courts were 'guilty' of anything. He said the |
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Tutankhamun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 05:37 PM Response to Reply #44 |
56. Yes, these writers are clearly twisting what Obama said to suit what they want to say. |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 02:35 PM Response to Reply #37 |
49. same quotes.. |
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surrealAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 02:39 PM Response to Reply #24 |
50. Thank you. |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
43. Overreached WHAT??!! |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
54. So Obama feels that Brown v. Board of Education was wrongly decided? |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 05:04 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. No, Obama confined his remarks to the 60's and 70's, Brown |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 08:10 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. The right to privacy and reproductive freedom was likely what he was referring to |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 08:20 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. No, and I'll tell you why. Obama has made it very clear he supports |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 08:30 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Comments that he's made make me suspect that as a legal doctrine, his support is limited |
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scentopine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
57. Sheesh, what next from our "centrist" purists, opening up off shore oil drilling? |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
58. This is in accordance with the public's view and may help him appoint a liberal nominee. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
59. The constitutional law lecturer trying to have it both ways again |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 12:01 AM Response to Original message |
63. Dude, there are times to pontificate and there are times to just STFU |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
64. Who is this man? I swear I have a love/hate relationship with this President. |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 12:04 AM Response to Original message |
65. I don't believe I've ever seen a thread with more "ignored" |
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JoeyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
66. What he said is actually open to quite a bit of interpretation. |
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