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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 10:38 AM
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Gulf Spill Solution Could be Supertankers, BP Won’t Listen


A former Shell Oil executive told FastCompany.com that a solution to cleaning up the Gulf Coast Oil spill is right under BP’s noses. John Hofmeister, the former president of Shell Oil, and Nick Pozzi, a former pipeline engineering and operations project manager say that BP could use their very own supertankers to suck up the spilled oil in the gulf and possibly salvage it for sale down the line. The tactic was proven effective during a Saudi spill in the 90’s — it sucked up 85% of the renegade oil. BP has tankers already sitting in the Gulf of Mexico, so we’re thinking, with their tactics failing left and right, why don’t they get on this already?


NPR reported today that the spill is most likely gushing 10 times — possibly even 14 times — as much oil as previously thought, which would already put the spill in first place over the Exxon Valdez disaster. Hofmeister and Pozzi have been trying to get in touch with BP executives and persons in the Obama administration to present their genius idea to those in charge of the cleanup. They’ve been repeatedly turned away, and, once, a lawsuit was even threatened. Hofmeister thinks BP is turning a blind eye to their solution because they don’t want to tie up their supertankers in the cleanup efforts.

more:http://inhabitat.com/2010/05/14/gulf-spill-solution-could-be-supertankers-bp-wont-listen/


The Secret, 700-Million-Gallon Oil Fix That Worked — and Might Save the Gulf

There's a potential solution to the Gulf oil spill that neither BP, nor the federal government, nor anyone — save a couple intuitive engineers — seems willing to try. As The Politics Blog reported on Tuesday in an interview with former Shell Oil president John Hofmeister, the untapped solution involves using empty supertankers to suck the spill off the surface, treat and discharge the contaminated water, and either salvage or destroy the slick.

Hofmeister had been briefed on the strategy by a Houston-based environmental disaster expert named Nick Pozzi, who has used the same solution on several large spills during almost two decades of experience in the Middle East — who says that it could be deployed easily and should be, immediately, to protect the Gulf Coast. That it hasn't even been considered yet is, Pozzi thinks, owing to cost considerations, or because there's no clear chain of authority by which to get valuable ideas in the right hands. But with BP's latest four-pronged plan remaining unproven, and estimates of company liability already reaching the tens of billions of dollars (and counting), supertankers start to look like a bargain.

The suck-and-salvage technique was developed in desperation across the Arabian Gulf following a spill of mammoth proportions — 700 million gallons — that has until now gone unreported, as Saudi Arabia is a closed society, and its oil company, Saudi Aramco, remains owned by the House of Saud. But in 1993 and into '94, with four leaking tankers and two gushing wells, the royal family had an environmental disaster nearly sixty-five times the size of Exxon Valdez on its hands, and it desperately needed a solution.



Read more: http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/gulf-oil-spill-supertankers-051310#ixzz0nv1GL8zY

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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 10:44 AM
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1. That would mean all of that oil would be put on the market.
That keeps nagging at me. Is that fact affecting their decision?
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 11:10 AM
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2. You mean you think they don't clean it up because not cleaning it up keeps it off
the market, and therefore helps keep prices up? Am I understanding you?
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 12:02 PM
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4. Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 11:22 AM
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3. Maybe the U.S. could buy the reclaimed oil and put it into the strategic oil reserve.
Wait - that would make way too much sense.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 07:52 PM
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5. I think it's not that much relative to the overall market
so it wouldn't hugely affect prices

but I could be wrong
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DLnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 10:47 PM
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8. Well the US crude oil consumption is about 20 million barrels a day, IIRC
At 42 gallons per barrel, that would be 840 million gallons a day of crude. So 2 million gallons a day (high end estimate of the BP gusher so far, I think) would be about a quarter of a percent of the US market. So, no, I don't think the market would move greatly based on that oil being on the market or off the market. It's worth wondering, but in fact it seems like it's not really a factor.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 07:57 PM
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6. I thought of something like this, except the front of the ship would have an huge inverted "V" plow
to guide the oil in while the ship moved into the slicks. Then you would have a scoop and suck it up into the tanker. They used skimmers for years to clean up the Charles, I'm surprised a similar concept hasn't been attempted on the ocean.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 08:43 PM
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7. Small tactical nuke near the hole....collapse it
I believe Russia did just that on more than a couple occasions.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 10:43 AM
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9. NO. There are unexploded ordinance dumping grounds in the Gulf.
Radiation would be trapped in the gulf, and if the nuke and any subsequent explosions it may trigger collapses the sea floor that would be a global extinction event.

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