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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 05:19 PM
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won’t allow ideas to raise taxes on new site, but Hitler references and anti-Hispanic rhetoric are
House Republicans launched a new website (America Speaking Out) yesterday to “listen” to Americans’ policy ideas in order to craft a new Party agenda. However, the site is not an open forum for just any idea. Project leader Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) said the GOP will stick to its “principles” — meaning they won’t incorporate any idea they don’t already agree with. Moreover, the new site comes with some caveats. “Someone who wants to come on and make the suggestion on how to raise taxes, for example,” said Rep. Peter Roskam (R-IL). “They are welcome to do that, that’s not something that we are going to take up.” Also discouraged? “Suggestions on amnesty or a path to legalization for illegal immigrants and anything pro-choice.” However, it appears that references to Hitler are just fine. In addition to mentions of Hitler, the Washington Post’s Dana Millbank reports some other rather odd and offensive suggestions the GOP has allowed on America Speaking Out:

“End Child Labor Laws,” suggests one helpful participant. “We coddle children too much. They need to spend their youth in the factories.”

“How about if Congress actually do thier job and VET or Usurper in Chief, Obama is NOT a Natural Born Citizen in any way,” recommends another. “That fake so called birth certificate is useless.” <...>

“Don’t let the illegals run out of Arizona and hide. … I think that we should do something to identify them in case they try to come back over. Like maybe tattoo a big scarlet ‘I’ on their chests — for ‘illegal’!!!” (Filed under “job creation.”) <...>

“I oppose the Hispanicization of America,” said one. “These are not patriotic people.” Another contributor had parody in mind (we hope): “English is are official langauge. Anybody who ain’t speak it the RIGHT way should kicked out.”

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/05/26/gop-website-taxes-hitler/
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 05:26 PM
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1. We welcome all new ideas that echo what we think
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 05:27 PM
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2. They never listen to my suggestions. I can tell cause they're still breathing nt
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 05:38 PM
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3. oh good god are they being punk`d
http://www.americaspeakingout.com/browse/questions/in/life

how long before they shut it down? i checked another page....punk`d
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 09:41 AM
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6. Heh heh. Evidently, DailyKos agrees with you. . .
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 05:50 PM
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4. That's almost hilarious ...
.... If I were the creative sort, I'd get on there under about 10 different aliases and post up the most obnoxious, illiterate stupid shit I could think of, just to see how many knuckle-draggers followed behind and supported what I wrote.

The GOP is such a parody anymore.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 09:00 PM
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5. " “End Child Labor Laws,” suggests one helpful participant. “We coddle children too much."
Poe's law:

Poe's Law points out that it is hard to tell parodies of fundamentalism (or, more generally, any crackpot theory) from the real thing, since they both seem equally insane. Conversely, real fundamentalism can easily be mistaken for a parody of fundamentalism.

Originally the law only made the claim that someone will mistake a parody of fundamentalism for the real thing - that if someone made a sarcastic comment stating that evolution was a hoax because "birds don't give birth to monkeys" then there would be a high probability that someone, later in the discussion, would miss the joke and explain (in all seriousness) how the poster was an idiot. However, the usage of the law has grown to include three similar but different concepts:

1. The original idea that at least one person will mistake parody postings for sincere beliefs.
2. That nobody will be able to distinguish many instances of parody posts from the real thing.
3. That anybody, not already in the grip of fundamentalist ideas, will mistake sincere expressions of fundamentalism for parody.

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Poe's Paradox:

The "Poe paradox" is a corollary to Poe's Law. It states that:
“ In any fundamentalist group where Poe's Law applies, a paradox exists where any new person (or idea) sufficiently fundamentalist to be accepted by the group, is likely to be so ridiculous that they risk being rejected as a parodist (or parody). ”

History: The term was first used by RationalWiki editor The Lay Scientist to describe an apparent paradox in the management of editing rights at Conservapedia:

"Any new member of the CP project who's not as Conservative as them is liable to be chucked out. However, any new member who is as Conservative as them is in serious danger of being called a parodist, and chucked out. Is this the first living example of a Poe Paradox?"

More: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Poe%27s_Law

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Ohio Metal Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 10:46 AM
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7. We were having a Poe hunt yesterday
on Pharyngula. It became quite difficult to spot the Poes. RepubliKKKons never cease to amaze. http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/05/republicans_discover_sarcasm_d.php#comments
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