Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

John Maynard Keynes, the GOP's latest whipping boy

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Editorials & Other Articles Donate to DU
 
mike r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 10:48 AM
Original message
John Maynard Keynes, the GOP's latest whipping boy
Edited on Sat Sep-11-10 10:49 AM by mike r
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/10/AR2010091003754.html

John Maynard Keynes, the GOP's latest whipping boy
By Dana Milbank

"In the long run we are all dead," the great 20th-century economist John Maynard Keynes once stipulated. As usual, Keynes was right, and in this case it's probably for the better: Keynes didn't live to see the Republicans of 2010 portray him as some sort of Marxist revolutionary.

"The president will use the Labor Day holiday as the launching pad for yet another government stimulus effort, another play called from the same failed Keynesian playbook," declared Rep. Eric Cantor (Va.), the No. 2 Republican in the House. "The point is that the Obama Keynesian-on-steroids has not worked," Sen. John McCain (Ariz.) announced on Fox News. Rep. Paul Ryan (Wis.) determined that "the Keynesian experiment, which was more spending, has failed to produce jobs."

These men get their economic firepower from conservative think tanks such as the Cato Institute (which writes of "Barack Obama's Keynesian Mistake") and from business leaders such as Intel's Paul Otellini ("their experiment in Keynesian economics not working"). Together, they've managed to turn the Keynesian notion of economic "stimulus" into such a dirty word that President Obama and his aides are afraid to let it escape their lips. What's with the hate for Maynard?

Perhaps these Republicans don't realize that some of their tax-cut proposals are as "Keynesian" as Obama's program. There's a fierce dispute about how best to respond to the economic crisis -- Tax cuts? Deficit spending? Monetary intervention? -- but the argument is largely premised on the Keynesian view that government should somehow boost demand in a recession. Or perhaps, more ominously, these Republicans know exactly what they are saying when they reject Keynesian intervention: that the government should do nothing to help the millions out of work or to rebuild confidence in the economy...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
metapunditedgy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 11:14 AM
Response to Original message
1. I've been hearing right-wingers criticizing Keynes for a while now. I just ignore it,
because the right-wing economics talking points are so crazy, it's like debating with a fairy tale.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 12:41 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. You mean like the RW talking point that Keynes doesn't understand Say's law...
and that's why Keynesian economics will never work?

Nevermind that they worked wonderfully for almost 50 years; most of the idiots I hear repeating that crap cannot answer this simple question:

What is Say's Law?

:shrug:

“Supply creates its own Demand.”

If they understood that, they'd understand that they're on the wrong side though.

Say’s Law has various interpretations. The long-run version is that there cannot be overproduction of goods in general for a very long time because those who produce the goods, by their act of producing, produce the purchasing power to buy other goods...Certainly the long-run version is correct. Given enough time, supply does create its own demand. There can be no long-run glut of goods.

http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/bios/Say.html

The problem, as Keynes pointed out, is it's simply not true in the short term.

Money is not a commodity. The nature of debt does not change with the economy and credit/commodity bubbles (which have certainly existed and caused numerous recessions and depressions) frequently cause a short-term glut of goods. More that only the short-term matters because as Keynes pointed out. "In the long-run, we're all dead." (I'd have posted a lovely quote and/or article to demonstrate this but it's impossible to find a summary of it that doesn't extensively cite RW economists like Hayek and von Mises misrepresenting Keynes's POV to make their own arguments stronger.)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 25th 2024, 06:50 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Editorials & Other Articles Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC