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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 11:25 PM
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Palin, O'Donnell, prayer warrors and coded christian comments to so-called "Values Voters"
BUZZFLASH DAILY HEADLINES


Yesterday, I brought attention to the dangers of the "prayer warriors" of the New Right, exemplified by Sarah Palin and Christine O'Donnell. And sure enough, in the last 24

hours, both of them just re-confirmed their coded commitment to a white Christian

America run by divine guidance, whatever that might be.


O'Donnell spoke yesterday to the misnamed "Values Voters Summit" (a right-wing gathering that sounds like a sale at Wal-Mart) and referred to "conservatives" as the

chosen people who are returning to "their divine principles." The key link here is that

she implies that the Constitution represents a gift from God, and therefore to "return to

the Constitution" is, in essence, a return to white Christian biblical rule, although that

never existed. It is a fantasy, a misreading and abuse of the Constitutional principles

upon which America is founded.


Meanwhile, Ms. Palin appeared at the GOP Ronald Reagan dinner in Iowa on Friday.

The press widely interpreted her keynote speech as the toss of her hat - or her trademark glasses - into the 2012 presidential ring. A recent lacerating "Vanity Fair" article noted

that Palin told McCain aides in 2008 that she didn't need to read the campaign's policy briefing books because she was getting energized by reading e-mails from her fellow "prayer warriors."


I noted yesterday that Mary Glazier of Alaska anointed Sarah Palin as a "prayer warrior"

who could rise to the highest level of government and establish extremist Christian rule. About nine months ago the Alaska Fairbanks Newsminer paper profiled Glazier, Palin's spiritual mentor.


Here is one of Glazier's statements: "In 1993, I heard C. Peter Wagoner who taught on

the three levels of warfare: Ground, Occult and Cosmic levels. We were doing the same thing here in Alaska and it was growing by leaps…. We now have 4600 prayer networks/individuals, 281 pastors, about 221 Native ministries. Alaska is an important northern gate, and it will become 1 of the important mission-sending stations. God is moving through His warriors to redeem the continents where He finds warring armies."


This is no joke.

Mark Karlin
Editor, BuzzFlash at Truthout
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lob1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 11:29 PM
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1. She's very clever.
She hides her craziness by acting crazy.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 11:41 PM
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2. It is not really crazy.
There is a supernatural battle that goes on.

However people have to be careful about what and how they pray, if they pray for harm, they can be on the wrong side, or if they pray for ideas of selfishness or other flaws everyone has.

Many prayers are actually curses. I found the best idea is to try to just be nice to people, it is a better way of spreading God's love, then summoning supernatural forces. I figure if something supernatural wants to help, they will, knowing they have free will, and think of prayer more as conversation to learn, then it being about asking for stuff to be done.

heh, also why a person has to correct the wrong done with lack of beer and travel financing, and many good experiences, since it seems making someone do that, by invoking some bad effect on them, would be wrong.


Although, in my view, they should go after censors if they are censoring, if they do pray in worse ways, might as well redirect that to those that wont correct issues.
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Hestia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 11:23 AM
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6. I wish we could like reply's - yours is dead on - thank you
On one board I've been on since 2004 I brought this very point up - someone came out with the most horrible prayer for the demise of our president. Finally, I posted that if anything tells you it is okay to pray that way, whispers in your ear telling you that you know it all, everyone else is losers, have brought forth a demon. A person doesn't have to believe in anything to bring forth a demon. They exist, they are real, and all this "praying down" of sacred sites have brought them here.

I agree also with your statement about the supernatural helping, without our intercession. Prayers and words have Power. Mankind has lost site of that fact, which is why the world is so screwn right now. A little known fact - English was created as an occult language, it was used to confuse the inquisititors.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 06:01 PM
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7. I would not go so far as to say that is a purpose of a language.
Edited on Sun Sep-19-10 06:03 PM by RandomThoughts
However there are many things that can help people be honest were what they say means different things to different people. I would not say it is occult, occult is secrecy, instead it is in plain view, but a person has to be able to see the words in the language the same way as someone else to understand a language. So many thoughts on what someone says include the meaning attached by the person listening.

The less precision in a language, the more the listener adds to what they hear. And from my observations English is a very mixed language using many words that have multiple meanings.

There is nothing secret about a language, just some don't understand it the same way as someone else.

You can trace most western languages to Latin, or Greek. I think German and English have the Greek root, where Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, and french have the Latin root.


To develop a language all you need to do is put any culture in a location for a few generations, look at accents, they really are the beginning of forming new languages, languages all change, and it is quite reasonable to see how people on the British Isles formed there own language.

I disagree with your reasoning, the languages are older then that.

Another great example is how Finish, and Romanian have the same root.(I think it is those two countries, might be Bulgarian) Where the language used to be the common language across most of Ukraine, but movement across those slopes changed the common language in that area. But both Finish and Romania still have same older language.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 11:43 PM
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3. North is not based on geography.
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 12:01 AM
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4. They remind me of the Manson klan
They were the "chosen" ones too. Only they had Jesus himself. LOL!
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 09:39 AM
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5. Is a "northern gate" something like a Hellmouth?
I swear, these people think they're living in Buffy the Vampire Slayer, except that they believe they're the good guys instead of realizing they're opening the gates for "demonic" influences to come through -- at least within their own minds.

Not that I believe in literal demons, of course -- but there are some very ancient, primitive aspects to the human psyche that should only be invoked in small doses and by people who really know what they're doing. And blindly rushing to give them free reign is a good way to unleash a metaphorical hell on Earth.

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