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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 01:23 AM
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Frank Schaeffer: Obama Will Triumph, So Will America

Before he’d served even one year President Obama lost the support of the easily distracted left and engendered the white hot rage of the hate-filled right. But some of us, from all walks of life and ideological backgrounds -- including this white, straight, 57-year-old, former religious right wing agitator, now progressive writer and (given my background as the son of a famous evangelical leader) this unlikely Obama supporter -- are sticking with our President. Why?-- because he is succeeding.

We faithful Obama supporters still trust our initial impression of him as a great, good and uniquely qualified man to lead us.

Obama’s steady supporters will be proved right. Obama’s critics will be remembered as easily panicked and prematurely discouraged at best and shriveled hate mongers at worst.


http://frank-schaeffer.blogspot.com/2009/12/obama-will-triumph-so-will-america.html


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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 01:27 AM
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1. As a supporter, I approve this message! I think this guy has
my mindset. My initial impression hasn't waivered. :thumbsup:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 01:27 AM
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2. "easily distracted left"
Edited on Mon Sep-20-10 01:28 AM by Skittles
as opposed to the goose-stepping right? Fuck you Frank
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 01:36 AM
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3. There's my Skittles, always looking for the negative. nt
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Tunkamerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 02:01 AM
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5. neither are opposed
both can exist. it's not one or the other.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 02:03 AM
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6. the left is not DISTRACTED
Edited on Mon Sep-20-10 02:04 AM by Skittles
we simply don't GOOSESTEP - we call bullshit where we see BULLSHIT
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Tunkamerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 03:29 AM
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9. First of all, I don't think he meant ALL of the left
only the easily distracted (more on this in a sec). Just like he isn't saying that ALL of the right is hate-filled. Can we agree on that?

And by "easily distracted" I think he means sacrificing the big picture for small victories. And even as I typed that I imagined all the ways that explanation could be flipped on me in a very angry response so you don't have to bother.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 01:59 AM
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4. K & R
:thumbsup:
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 02:43 AM
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7. December 2009.
Here we go again. This must be one of the all-time favorites.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 03:22 AM
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8. Thanks for noticing; something I obviously didn't early this morning...

;)

I don't think he's changed his impressions and opinions much though? Not from what I've seen of him lately on Rachel's show.

:hi:
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 10:41 AM
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14. Don't worry about it. That's one that gets posted with relish on a regular basis
Edited on Mon Sep-20-10 10:46 AM by chill_wind
at KOS and other blogs and I'm sure it's been at least a month since it's last post here.

It's one of his more zealous, divisive, nastier sermons and for a lifelong nasty hate-mongering zealot, that's saying something.

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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 06:01 AM
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10. Big K & R
He nailed it....and the sad thing is that nearly a year after this was written it's only gotten worse. "It's not good enough" is the rallying cry of the defeatists.

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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 06:58 AM
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11. That's a Resume of Delusion
This Frank Shaeffer guy hasn't done one useful, productive thing in his life. I'll believe the real laborers in this country first. There's still a lot more of them, and they are NOT pleased.

Faithful. This isn't an issue of belief, it's cold, hard fact. Obama is not succeeding, and he's not even trying. He can't even keep the illusion going.
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suzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 09:30 AM
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12. Obama is not even trying?
Seems like Frank Shaeffer dismissed some of the "distracted left" in rather mild terms.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 10:05 AM
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13. Frank was a professional hate monger for many years
Made bank doing it. He still engages, almost automatically, in the use of fear and divisions as his main methods. For Frank, there is always, always an 'us' and a 'them' and Frank has something to sell, always, to those he calls 'us'.
This man did great harm to our nation, he and his father were the chief engineers of the 'religious right'. This man is personally responsible for helping to build the anti gay, anti choice agenda of the right wing. He claims that he and his father did not hate gay people, but they still teamed up to make a hate message with the Rushdoony crowd, and they did that for power and money. I assume Frank kept the wealth. He never mentions that aspect of his hate ministry, the giant amount of books he and his daddy sold.
He has much, much to make up for. And yet here again he seems to be bashing people who seek equal rights when that is counter to the religion he and the President share. His words, just as they always did, serve Frank as the judge, and the 'other' held up as flawed and in need of being told.
I have personally heard Frank breath fire and invective against my people. He still holds on to that. He and his father made alliances around religion for the sake of political gain. Not good people at all.
Frank is one of the most harmful Americans of my lifetime. He should be in constant apology. But instead, he is still telling liberals and gays we are somehow flawed in the eyes of an Evangelist.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 03:08 PM
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15. Easily distracted left?!
Fuck off and die, Frank.

We're NOT easily distracted and that's just what bothers everyone.
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japple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 05:51 PM
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16. Thanks, OGR, for posting this. You are showing us the light!
n/t
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 08:08 PM
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17. This hateful pile of shit was posted here about year ago. n/t
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 10:12 PM
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18. More like about a month ago
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x560843

which is when kossacks decided to dust it off to get the troops back in line. Again.
It's a favorite.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 10:41 PM
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19. Schaeffer, for all his talk of how he's changed, still thinks like a fundamentalist.
One is either with him or against him, and anyone who disagrees with him is acting from the basest possible motives.

Yep, still a fundamentalist at heart.

He reminds me of David Horowitz, the former Stalinist who is now a conservative but still has the intellectual and rhetorical characteristics of a Stalinist.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 11:44 PM
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20. Great example.
Same fundamentalist capacity for zealotry, different new-found idolatry.
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