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WizardLeft62 Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 07:30 PM
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"Obama is dealing away FDR's legacy" By Julian E. Zelizer
Salon.com
Dec 10, 2010 08:30 ET

Obama is dealing away FDR's legacy
Cutting the payroll tax could boost the economy now -- and it could also destroy Social Security later
By Julian E. Zelizer
Zelizer is a history professor at Princeton University. He is the author of "Jimmy Carter," "Arsenal of Democracy," and the editor of "The Presidency of George W. Bush."

“….President Obama's compromise with Republican leaders to extend the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy, there has been less discussion about a feature of the deal that could have enormous long-term consequences: the payroll tax holiday.
 
Under the plan, which still must be approved by the House and Senate, the payroll tax would be cut by 2 percentage points for all wage-earners -- meaning that a worker making $40,000 would receive an extra $800 in his or her paycheck over the course of a year. The White House and its defenders are touting this as a way to boost the stalled economy, and it might just do that. But they're also playing with fire…..For supporters of the program, the use of Social Security tax reductions for economic stimulus is a dangerous political precedent. The tax holiday plays directly into the "Starve the Beast" strategy that conservatives have pursued since the 1980s. After Ronald Reagan's election in 1980, Republicans learned that directly attacking domestic programs was hard to do. When Reagan pushed for cuts in Social Security in 1981, he faced a massive backlash that forced him to back down. President George W. Bush encountered the same fate in 2005 when he tried to spend his political capital on Social Security reform. The lesson was learned. Republicans instead focused on a strategy whereby ongoing tax cuts would gradually leave the federal government with less revenue for new programs and make existing programs susceptible to attack as a result of deficits….

A key reason for the program's strength has been the sanctity of the Social Security tax, which has been treated as a special tax, distinct from income and corporate taxes, on the grounds that it is linked to a specific government benefit. Every year, Congress uses the funds collected from payroll tax contributions of workers to pay for the benefits of current retirees. "With those damn taxes in there," Franklin Roosevelt once declared, "no damn politician will ever scrap my Social Security program."……President Obama and the congressional Republicans agreed to break with this precedent. In the future, proposals to further cut Social Security taxes -- including to do so on a permanent basis -- will certainly be on the table. Once politicians have tasted the political sweetness of tax cuts, they always come back for more. If they succeed, it will worsen the long-term budgetary challenges facing Social Security and create more room for opponents to attack. Indeed, simply by entering into a bipartisan agreement to change the way that Social Security taxes are discussed, the odds improve that one day, some politician might very well be able to scrap FDR's program.”

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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 07:34 PM
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1. well he certainly isn't doing it alone
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 06:27 PM
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9. His first duty is to protect
the New Deal from attacks by right wing zealots. He could do it but instead he is complicit.
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Creative Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 07:35 PM
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2. Something tells me that Obama is more concerned about his own legacy
than that of FDR's.

In other words, he's looking ahead to 2012, not back to 1932.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 07:38 PM
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3. What a favor he would have done this nation, if he'd announced his decision to be a
Edited on Wed Dec-15-10 07:39 PM by truedelphi
One Term FDR style Democratic President, and ignored the Rahm-ization of his office and activities.

So instead of a statesman, we have just another politician, ready to throw the American Middle Class on the dung heap of history, all so he can cash those campaign checks that will come his way for doing so.

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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 07:41 PM
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4. Sad. True.
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WizardLeft62 Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 07:45 PM
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5. Obama's own legacy....Looking like another Herbert Hoover
Edited on Wed Dec-15-10 07:48 PM by WizardLeft62
Obama's own legacy is looking more and more like President Herbert Hoover's as well as the Gilded Age, which is so, so, far away from FDR's legacy.

Hoover was a Republican. Obama praised Reagan over and over again in his 2008 presidential campaign. His economic policies are more in line with Reagan and Hoover already than anything FDR stood for.

FDR was a "Democrat" who took on the same economic royalists which Obama now takes his marching orders from.

Hell, I wish it was back to 1932 rather than to the time of Herbert Hoover who gave America away to the same robbers Obama is now givig this nation away to.

Obama is the great compromiser with the likes of Mitch McConnell and continuing the same neoliberal corporae globalization economic policies of George W. Bush.

Obama doesn't even consult with the congressional Democratic Party. That Obama ignores the principles of the Democratic Congress would make Reagan quite proud.
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galloglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 08:16 PM
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7. Hoover ? Let's step up the game.
Edited on Wed Dec-15-10 08:18 PM by galloglas
The thought that came to my mind was his likeness, not to one our Presidents, but to one of the Veeps. Aaron Burr, specifically.

Selling out his country and people for purely personal aggrandizement. How Burrian!

On the plus side of the ledger, he has not yet shot a Treasury Secretary in a duel (or otherwise) as Burr did to Alexander Hamilton.

Still, if Paul Krugman and, especially, Robert Reich keep telling us how it really is, economically, I hope they have their backs covered.

Hate to see them go down in a duel by proxy.


:self edit for grammar and clarity









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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 07:54 PM
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6. Shortest interview needed to show us who FDR was:
Edited on Wed Dec-15-10 07:54 PM by truedelphi

Young Reporter: "So are you a Capitalist"

FDR: "No."

Young reporter: "Are you then a Socialist?"

FDR: "No."

Young Reporter: "Then what are you?"

FDR: "I am a Democrat!"

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WizardLeft62 Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 05:44 PM
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8. FDR is rolling over in his grave today....
FDR is rolling over in his grave today....thanks to this uber-wealthy Bush tax cut being extended.

He believes every Democratic Party sellout needs to go register as a Republican and stop their lying to constituents at election time.

Obama's "fireside chats" have been lectures to those who voted for him. Obama is a despicable person.
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 07:27 PM
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10. Obama doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as FDR
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joentokyo Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:47 PM
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11. That is his mission
Obushma and Clinton were stealth Republican candidates. We were suckered into believing they were Democrats.
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