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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 04:47 PM
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The Internet Splits in Two
more:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-12-21/net-neutrality-ruling-the-fcc-splits-the-internet-in-two/?cid=hp:mainpromo2

Today’s FCC ruling on net neutrality shifts billions in profits and boils down to one fact: There will soon be a fast Internet for the rich and a slow Internet for the poor.

The Federal Communications Commission approved a set of net neutrality rules today, and nobody is happy. While liberals claim the FCC has caved to pressure from carriers, right-wingers are calling the new rules a government takeover of the Internet. In their tea-addled brains, the new rules represent yet another example of creeping socialism taking over every aspect of our lives. FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski is "Julius Seizure." Cue the black helicopters.

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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 05:03 PM
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1. Recommend
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felix_numinous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 05:25 PM
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2. Sneaky bastards know by calling this 'net neutrality',
there will be a delay before many people know what just happened.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 11:11 AM
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21. I agree, this is more like net segregation.
I imagine they're thinking "divide and conquer."
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Pholus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 05:31 PM
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3. Oh well, hopefully we come together and create ad-hoc networks. They'll be made illegal of course.
Mustn't interfere with profits after all.
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 10:58 PM
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11. But it won't be the WORLD WIDE web, though...
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Pholus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 11:39 PM
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12. True at first. But if our tubes don't work it'll be up to us to find a way to make our own.
That'd be a hobby I could get into...
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 12:23 PM
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17. You're going to lay down cable all over the world?
Best of luck.
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Pholus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 05:15 PM
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18. Ummmm, no. With the "all at once" attitude, no community efforts would ever get done.
Edited on Wed Dec-22-10 05:16 PM by Pholus
Hey, these rules may be no big deal. I figure that indys can work around the system, even with traffic throttling.

But maybe not. In that case, it'll be up to us to build an alternative. Might be kind of fun. It'll start small too -- how could it do otherwise? A neighborhood ad-hoc wireless network. Then it can grow a bit, linking neighborhoods. By then, perhaps there is a way to get between cities. Anyway, you start and make a good effort and other people come in and contribute and big things can happen. Linux wouldn't ever have worked if it had been Linus Torvalds designing everything from scratch himself. It takes a community and it would take the commercial networks becoming unusable which hopefully they're too smart to do.

Sounds like it wouldn't be your cup of tea though. :)

Edit: Who needs to run worldwide cable anyway? At least for now the rest of the world is still sane. We just have to link in somewhere.
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postulater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 05:47 PM
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4. Many people still have slow internet
just because there is no cable in their area.

My mother is still on dial-up at 28k.

Takes forever to watch a YouTube video. She misses out on a lot.
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Dokkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 06:52 PM
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5. thats sad
but i dont think theres anything in this bill that will require the internet companies to lay fiber optic lines in her area.
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right2bfree Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 08:04 PM
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7. I have a cheap DSL plan that is still 10or 20 X faster then dial-up....
...you get used to it after you were on dial up for years.

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emsimon33 Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 07:41 PM
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6. The Internet is the super highway of the 21st century economy
This decision just relegates the U.S. to the trash heap of history and once again confirms that Obama is one of them and despises the American public.
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right2bfree Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 08:05 PM
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8. Sure seems that way. How disappointing this last two years have been. nt
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Moostache Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 08:12 PM
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9. I disagree in some regards...
The internet is a fantastic tool, but let's face it, America's economic woes are NOT solely or even mainly because of internet access or speeds right now. We have deep structural imbalances and issues in the economy - largely because we have no manufacturing base any longer and the resultant dependence on booms and bubbles (since about 1994 - 2007). When coupled to our insanely warped tax policy and military misadventures, the internet is a good number of rungs down the ladder of reasons for the demise of the USofA. Barrack Obama is even further down that casual ladder...
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 08:59 PM
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10. Here's the WaPo analysis:
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Pholus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 11:41 PM
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13. Wikileaks will be the first site throttled to nonexistence. Then the torrent sites, then....
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 12:21 PM
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15. ISPs can already block sites and protocols they don't want on their network
That's always been true, and always will be true. This has nothing to do with net neutrality, which is about who pays for network usage on the back-end.
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Pholus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 05:20 PM
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20. Fortunately there are people who can subvert the intent. Unless that gets made illegal.
Maybe that could be the next "compromise" in the name of bipartisanship.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 07:52 AM
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14. Pfft. So what. The internet is dead anyway.
Prince said so.

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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 12:22 PM
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16. I read my first "end of the net is nigh" NNTP post in I think 1989
And the gloom has just kept coming since then.
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Pholus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 05:18 PM
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19. As a researcher I predicted Internet 2 the exact day AOL came on usenet.

But, then again, gloom and doom usually works pretty well as a first pass model of how we do things these days.
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