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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 11:25 AM Original message |
How the Winter Solstice was stolen by Christmas |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
1. according to SENSIBLE researchers |
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Dave From Canada (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 11:38 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Sweet. I play a drinking game on how many winter soltice topics are created in this forum |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 09:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
17. I was drunk two days after Thanksgiving. |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 11:49 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Agreed |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
4. Are there any current religious holidays that are not based on or stolen from, the ancient pagan |
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Hestia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
5. I find it interesting how humankind has held onto the Pagan themes |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 11:56 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. The irony is howmany people who follow these "religious" traditions have no idea that their |
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TalkingDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
7. Mithras |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 09:39 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. Not quite. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 08:36 PM Response to Reply #7 |
31. The Roman Cult of Mithras by Manfred Clauss |
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BlueJazz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
8. Reminds me of the whole "Music Thing" |
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randr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
9. The story of the birth of Jesus has many historical references |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 08:40 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. Actually, not so |
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former9thward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 03:25 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. Your understanding is not very good. |
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COLGATE4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 03:42 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Josephus mentions him, but only in passing, and certainly not |
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former9thward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 03:51 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Jesus was considered a revolutionary by the Roman authorities. |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 08:48 AM Response to Reply #27 |
33. I'm not threatened if there was or was not a Jesus |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:26 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Where can we find these wonderful complete Roman records of which you speak? |
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shimmergal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 02:58 PM Response to Reply #16 |
38. Of course there's no "actual evidence" |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 12:59 AM Response to Reply #9 |
22. If shepherds were watching their flocks by night-- |
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former9thward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 03:56 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Why would you say that? |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 03:20 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Weather and climate are two different things |
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former9thward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:38 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. You are throwing out generalities. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:09 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. But it is not stifling hot during the DAY in the winter |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
10. The fact that the author cites the Urantia Book as an authority rather well discredits the op-ed |
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UBtheNEWS (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:58 AM Response to Reply #10 |
23. Urantia Book credibility |
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jimlup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
11. My son says Dec 25 was actually the winter solstice in a different calendar |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 07:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. The Roman calendar was in terrible disarray at the time of the Julian reform |
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jimlup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 11:17 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Thanks useful information |
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TalkingDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 11:37 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. The other theory posits |
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demosincebirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
12. If you don't believe, why do you care? |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 06:25 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Curiosity. Why do we do the things we do? Believe what we do. |
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demosincebirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 04:50 PM Response to Reply #14 |
29. Why do some need facts about things they don't believe in? Don't make sense to me. |
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Dave From Canada (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 11:51 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. Because they feel threatened and/or left out. It's the same old attacks on Christmas seen every |
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COLGATE4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 03:44 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Because I doubt many people care enough about Channukah to |
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demosincebirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 04:54 PM Response to Reply #21 |
30. These same persons tread lightly when discussing Islam. I wonder why? |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 06:55 PM Response to Reply #30 |
40. I don't tiptoe around islam... |
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pscot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-10 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
13. Nobody stole the solstice |
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roger_pearse (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
37. Mithras? |
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The Wizard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-11 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
39. Santa Claus is God |
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