Emily's List airs misleading ads

[yelladawg]

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Misleading ads

A $160,000 television ad campaign supporting Kayln Free for Congress has been launched on Tulsa stations by Emily’s List, a Washington, D.C., lobby which supports the election of pro-choice Democratic women to federal, state and local offices.<snip>
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By all means, out-of state soft money spending is legal if conducted independently and without involvement of the candidate.
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The Emily’s List TV spot also incorrectly states that Free is the first woman to serve as district attorney for Pittsburg and Haskell Counties. Free was elected in 1998. Gov. Frank Keating appointed Donnita Wynn as the counties’ district attorney in 1995. This is no big deal except that it shows how little the East Coast political group knows about Oklahoma.

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http://www.claremoreprogress.com/archive/article14622

[Crowdance]

1. Ummm....what's the point of this rambling piece?

Someone from Oklahoma is angry about "easterners" making commercials? Reckon he knows that Oklahoma is not the advertising capital of the world?

[yelladawg]

2. This is true

Oklahoma is not the advertising capital of the world. I was just a little surprise that Emily's List, (I donate to them) would be so reckless to air a false ad. This is not the first falsehood supported by Emily's List in this race. The dirty tactics are in full swing and they are coming from the Emily's List campaign manager in this race.

I thought Emily's List was an above board operation and wouldn't get into the gutter. It looks like I was wrong.

[fudge stripe cookays]

3. There's a word missing.

I just checked Emily's List.

Free is a member of the Choctaw nation.

She's the first NATIVE American woman for that post. I give money to the list, and I'll continue to give money to the list. Your options at this point are SO attractive.

Pro-choice progressive woman or.....complete fascist.

Your choice?
Thought so.

[yelladawg]

4. What a choice

Pro-choice progressive woman or.....complete fascist: what a choice.

Hey what do you feel about a Demcorat candidate who refuses to meet with Veterans Groups to discuss Veteran issues and problems. How about if that candidate refuses to meet at a Veterans forum and where all the other Democrat candidates will be present?

Hmmm: Is she hiding something or just HATES Vets?

Make more phone calls. This about to hit the media.

[fudge stripe cookays]

5. Well, it appears that you made a baited post.

If you have a problem with her attitude towards veterans groups, why didn't you say that in your initial post? Those of us who are not in Oklahoma might not know the whole story. Post your own thoughts to go with that clip.

Bashing Emily's list in a 400th-something post with no star tends to indicate you have a problem with one or more of the causes we espouse on this site, and can get you hostile replies.

I love Emily's List, and tend to think that if there's a problem, it's with Free, and not with the effort they're trying to put forth to get her elected. Perhaps she does have her flaws. Find us more information and articles on her hesitancy to meet with vets, then maybe you'll be taken seriously.

[yelladawg]

8. The cork is bobbing

"Well, it appears that you made a baited post."

No, not at all. The post was how Emily's List made a mistake. So far there has been 12 different newspapers in Oklahoma's CD2 to print stories bashing Emily's List. I have donated and have attended their schools and worked with Emily's List candidates in other states.

Somethings wrong with the way this race is being managed.

And as far as 400 something posts without an icon leads me to believe there are far more closed minded people here than you are willing to admit.

Let's see how long it takes me to post 600 "kicks", then I'll have over the coveted 1,000. Gee, what will people think then?

[fudge stripe cookays]

9. Not closed minded.

But now very suspicious.

There are tons of freepers among us, as one of our number who was recently FIRED through their influence can attest. Since that incident, I have paid much more attention to the types of posts and demographics here.

If you are concerned about the issue and want others to respond so that it can be discussed amicably and coherently, post it as a question about what's going on, why you are concerned, and why the issue is important to you.

Don't finger point at an important organization here, like your post did. If you have a problem with Emily's List, take it up with them. Bombard them with phone calls or e-mails. Talk to someone of incluence and explain your problem with Free and her refusal to meet with vet's groups. Yes, there seems to be a problem there. I agree.

But when you bash progressive organizations (like you were doing) on a Website like this, you invite annoyed responses like mine. Just a tip.

FSC

[yelladawg]

10. "But now very suspicious" something bushco would say

I can be checked out as to who I am and what I do for Demcorat candidates. There is a problem in Oklahoma. I have already called Emily's Lists and asked them to look into the shunning of Veteran groups. Nothing has happened. I don't believe in attacking an organization with e-mails or phone calls, they have more important things to do, like elect good candidates.

I point the finger here because they have screwed up, yet allow Free to continue her shunning of Veterans groups. I don't think she is very Democratic with her actions.

Veterans have gained a tremendous position by having a Veteran at the top of the ticket. Free refuses to embrace Kerry, has openly said Dean should be our choice, and has instructed her staff not to engage in pro Kerry events.

If a progressive organization allows and supports this type of action, as a Veteran activist and old time yellowdog, I will bash when ever and where ever.

I have stopped my donations to them and as long as they shun Veterans I will ask others to stop supporting them. I believe my 3 tours in Nam gave me that right.

[fudge stripe cookays]

11. Well..

I will call them myself and find out the real story before I sit here and fight with you on an internet site.

I respect you for your service, but I won't stop giving to Emily's list because of your gripe.

I don't believe in attacking an organization with e-mails or phone calls, they have more important things to do, like elect good candidates.

You just contradicted yourself. If you were really concerned about this issue, you'd call them and speak to someone in person about the problem and make sure that it gets addressed. If it didn't, you'd call them back and bug them about the issue. Instead, you'll cicumvent that important step and just start pointing fingers.

If it was my money that I'd donated and they were spending it in ways that I found distasteful, you can bet I'd be on the phone to them in a second.

Maybe they really DON'T know about Free. How will they if you don't tell them?

I'm OUT of this conversation.

[yelladawg]

12. well & well

I will call them myself and find out the real story before I sit here and fight with you on an internet site.

(Reply) Sorry you don'tbelieve what I have posted.


I respect you for your service, but I won't stop giving to Emily's list because of your gripe.

(Reply) I never asked you to stop giving to Emily's List.



You just contradicted yourself. If you were really concerned about this issue, you'd call them and speak to someone in person about the problem and make sure that it gets addressed. If it didn't, you'd call them back and bug them about the issue. Instead, you'll cicumvent that important step and just start pointing fingers.

(Reply) I posted that I had indeed called Emily's Lists.



Maybe they really DON'T know about Free. How will they if you don't tell them?

(Reply) They know. Several of their staff have talked to me about it.

I'm OUT of this conversation.

(Reply) That's called duck and run.

[Gators4Dean]

13. Pro-choice progressive woman or.....complete fascist.?

they are some in-betweens

[yelladawg]

14. I agree

There are some of us in the grey area.

[struggle4progress]

6. Confusing an elected person with an appointed person ...

is actually a very easy mistake to make, and (even to my limited experience) this isn't the first campaign ad that makes the mistake.

Sure, EL should have said "Free is the first woman ELECTED as district attorney ...."

Oops? Yeah. Major insult to Oklahomans? Nah.

Heck, I bet most people across the US can't track the names and histories of even a single district attorneys in their OWN states.

Doesn't this editorial really just distract attention away from important issues?

[struggle4progress]

7. BTW, here are the EL candidates:

https://secure.emilyslist.org/index.php?page=candidates