Protestors have "civilly arrested" a judge at Birkenhead county court.

[midnight]

A crowd of several hundred people has massed around the court.

Police have begun forcibly ejecting protestors from the court in chaotic scenes.

Made up of people from across the UK, the marchers say they are exerting their "ancient right to lawful Rebellion under Magna Carta."

“I believe that the people who are in control are morally defunct.


http://www.wirralglobe.co.uk/news/8893981.BREAKING_NEWS__Protestors__arrest__county_court_judge/


This spark of protest has to do with taxes and bankruptcy... Judge is rescued by the police. If you go to the site there is a video....

[old mark]

1. K&R- and here in the USA, we just watch it all on TV and complain about how bad things are...nt

[muriel_volestrangler]

3. These are the British version of the Tea Party

They say that joining the EU was 'treason', and have conspiracy theories about how England is going to be abolished and broken up into 9 regions. Roger Hayes refused to pay the council tax, on the grounds that he never signed a contract agreeing to pay tax, and was then taken to court about it.

[midnight]

4. Interesting take on this.... I would love to see a link though..

[muriel_volestrangler]

6. Some here:

Roger Hayes of The British Constitution Group has long questioned the legitimacy of the council tax. Specifically, he asks how can one be made to perform – as in become legally obliged, to perform certain actions (payment) without a form of contract taking place?

Duly understood, a contract must have a signature of the parties’ agreement. This has been Roger’s key to unlocking the fraud from the get-go. There is no signature on any contract, therefore no agreement, therefore no debt and no jurisdiction without c-o-n-s-e-n-t. Period. The end. Winning. Duh.

The court cannot proceed as there is no debt, no case and no jurisdiction to hold Roger accountable under. The trick as we know involves steamrollering or getting Roger to consent to answering to ‘State your name’ – therefore agreeing to represent the corporate fiction on which the Judge operates. The trustee to the trust. The strawman. The birth certificate. The corporate you. Et-freaking-cetera. MR ROGER HAYES – a legal appelation or entity which can be held under Admiralty jurisiction and CONtract law, ancient mystery religion sacrifical voodoo law. Complicated shit which enslaves us through our ingnorance to the deception. Not any more.

http://www.lawfulrebellion.org/2011/03/08/roger-hayes-rise-like-lions-council-tax-lawful-rebellion-judge-arrested/

Or look around their website: http://www.thebcgroup.org.uk/ . Try the video, under 'Alternative Governance' on the home page, setting out their concept of 'lawful rebellion', which starts with Hayes saying Europe wants to break England up into 9 'entities' (after he claims some coverup of corruption and paedophilia at the highest levels). There's some similarity to the 'freeman' movement, in which they say that they have the right to appoint their own 'sheriffs' and tell the police they no longer have authority over them. At their worst in the USA, the 'freemen' start shooting at the police, or at doctors who carry out abortions:

Roeder, who in the 1990s was a manufacturing assemblyman, also was involved in the "Freemen" movement.

"Freemen" was a term adopted by those who claimed sovereignty from government jurisdiction and operated under their own legal system, which they called common-law courts. Adherents declared themselves exempt from laws, regulations and taxes and often filed liens against judges, prosecutors and others, claiming that money was owed to them as compensation.

In April 1996, Roeder was arrested in Topeka after Shawnee County sheriff's deputies stopped him for not having a proper license plate. In his car, officers said they found ammunition, a blasting cap, a fuse cord, a one-pound can of gunpowder and two 9-volt batteries, with one connected to a switch that could have been used to trigger a bomb.

Read more: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2009/05/31/69151/suspect-in-tillers-death-supported.html#ixzz1JCpxteDM

The 'Referendum Party' that Hayes stood for was a short-lived party in the late 1990s, bankrolled by the billionaire James Goldsmith, that wanted to get Britain out of the EU: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Referendum_Party

Many sources also say he was in UKIP, another party that wants to leave the EU, and with is pretty right wing (eg Lord Monckton, the slightly crazy global warming denier beloved of some Republican politicians, is high up in it).

[Keith Bee]

5. Any connection to the BNP?

[muriel_volestrangler]

7. Not directly, but it seems a few BNP members are getting interested in it

Here a blog from the Unite Against Fascism group, which monitors, and organises against, racist movements in the UK - ie chiefly the BNP:

My comrade told me that “most of the Liverpool BNP contingent” were there, along with “plenty of suits, plenty of hippy types with tie dye and dreadlocks, some urban commandos with camouflaged faces, and some eccentric David Icke types, one holding a banner saying ‘judges are lizards!’” In terms of fascists, I can recognise Liverpool BNP’s current branch fundholder Karen Otty from the videos on the Wirral Globe website.

It seems Liverpool Organiser and unhinged fruitbat Mike Whitby was there too, at one point being bundled away by police when attempting to enter the court.
...
Hayes’ sophistry in court has made him a cult hero to the lunatic fringes of the libertarian right, particularly the “freeman on the land” movement. But their absurd idea – that you only have to declare yourself unbound by common law and the state (albeit begrudgingly) accepts this – has also seeped into the far-right. Hence the circular argument over the concept on VNN when Mike Whitby claimed to have used the tactic after being dragged away for throthing at the mouth and calling everyone “communist paedophiles.”
...
The BCG itself cannot be identified as a fascist grouping. It is certainly reactionary, and plays into nationalist sentiments with talk of “national sovereignty” and “acts of treason” by those “conspir(ing) to transfer our national sovereignty into the hands of foreign governance.” But it’s use of terms such as “the shadowy elite of the supranational and criminal banking cartel” play to the conspiracists in much the same way. It thus comes across as a bizarre cross between the Tea Party and the 9/11 Truth Movement.

http://lancasteruaf.blogspot.com/2011/03/british-constitution-group-in.html

[bemildred]

2. “I believe that the people who are in control are morally defunct."

Word.
:applause: