“Biblical Slavery” For Non-Christians? Yes, Suggests Website of Mike Huckabee’s Favorite Historian D

[Shallah Kali]

http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2011/04/07/biblical-slavery-for-non-christians-yes-suggests-website-of-mike-huckabees-favorite-historian-david-barton/

On April 6, 2011 Jon Stewart questioned presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee about David Barton. Stewart missed a few things. For example, Barton’s Wallbuilders web site has for almost a decade featured an article, by a member of Barton’s Wallbuilders board of directors, that seems to endorse “Biblical Slavery” for pagans and other miscreants, and favorably cites the work of a theologian who claimed the accepted Holocaust death toll was wildly inflated. The article has been on Barton’s Wallbuilders web site since 2003.

Huckabee is so enthusiastic about the teaching of Wallbuilders head Barton that at the March 2011 Rediscover God In America conference Huckabee stated that he wishes all Americans could be forcibly indoctrinated, at gunpoint no less, with Barton’s version of American history. As Huckabee told conference attendees,

“I almost wish that there would be, like, a simultaneous telecast, and all Americans would be forced-forced at gunpoint no less-to listen to every David Barton message, and I think our country would be better for it. I wish it’d happen.”

The pro-slavery article on Barton’s Wallbuilders web site would seem to qualify as one of Barton’s teachings given that it’s written by a Wallbuilders board member and Barton refers his readers directly to the article, clearly an endorsement of it.

So does Mike Huckabee wants Americans forcibly indoctrinated with pro-slavery ideas?

[pnwmom]

1. K & R. n/t

[RaleighNCDUer]

2. I still think that when Walker said to faux-Koch "He's one of us"

that he was referring to people like this as "us".

Reconstructionist theocrats have almost compeltely taken over the Repuke party - and a good chunk of the Democtratic party as well.

the next civil war in the US will be a religious war.

[Kurmudgeon]

3. Huckabee is unelectable and apparently irrational, don't judge all by him.

[yellowcanine]

12. may be unelectable but many Republican primary voters like him.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/03/cnn-poll-huckabee-tops-2012-gop-field-trump-almost-ties-palin.php

[MedicalAdmin]

6. *snorts derisively* there won't be another civil war.

It's not in Americans anymore. We don't fight for want we believe - we blog about it and most of us don't even bother with that. If we still fought we wouldn't stand for an all "volunteer" military, but instead we are comfortable with the children of the poor becoming fodder for the rich.

This country will become a theocracy, and, like a rabid dog, will have to be put down. I hope I'm wrong about this.

[jemelanson]

4. Just another example of how the Conservative Right Wing Fundies

Hate the US Constitution, the rule of law and want to impose their view of Old Testament Religious Laws on the people of the United States. The Christian Theocratic State where if you do not subscribe to their narrow view of Christianity then you have no rights, and NO FREEDOMS.

I wonder how they will determine which sect of Christianity will hold the whip over the rest. This will probably end up like the different sect of the Muslim Religion fighting amongst themselves as to which one is the True Followers of Islam. Which Sect of Christianity will gain the upper hand and try to suppress the others.

[tanyev]

7. Absolutely. Once the worst heretics have been dispatched,

then there will be time to deal with the heretics who also call themselves Christian and are their temporary allies. It would be entertaining if there wasn't so much collateral damage.

[66 dmhlt]

5. The only question is, can I own a Canuck?

Leviticus 25:44-46 (NIV)

⁴⁴ Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves.
⁴⁵ You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property.
⁴⁶ You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.

So the Bible clearly states that we may indeed possess slaves, both males and females - and we can even leave them to the kids in our Wills. However, it also states they have to be purchased from neighboring nations - or be immigrants. A good Christian friend of mine claims that this applies only to Mexicans, but not Canadians. I personally would prefer owning a Canuck. Is it true I can't own a Canuck?

[Kurmudgeon]

13. Leviticus doesn't really apply any more.

I'm not Jewish so speak to them on any particulars. However, seeing you mentioned a Christian, here's a good
reference, show it to them if you would.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Covenant
So I eat shellfish and don't do the things that were a problem in Leviticus, because it doesn't apply anymore.
And no, you can't own people, not even if you're Republican and want to really badly.

[66 dmhlt]

15. Uh???

Are you one of those Talibangelical christianists?

If so, then I'll go with Matthew 4:10 (since you seem to have a problem with the Old Testament).

[hatrack]

17. I think it's called "Chinese Menu Christian" - though I confess, I'm not a theologian

:eyes:

[LiberalEsto]

8. Heil Huckabee!

nt

[Bluenorthwest]

9. Those who say the belive the Bible thus they are opposed to

equal marriage rights for minority groups specific authors in that volume claim should not have rights can be assumed to favor slavery, as each of the specific authors they quote against those minorities also gave support to slavery, rules for slavery, and advice for slaves. That is a simple home truth, a fact. The hypocrites like to pretend those verses do not exist, that all the bad words are for 'those minority types' and none of the words are about them, none are about slavery, none are about the requirements for women to remain silent and dowdy, subservient and submissive.
Christians either believe their Book or they do not. It is obvious that they do not. Thus, the 'Bible is against gays' is just a huge steaming pile of nonsense from people who would not live by Biblical law for a long weekend if you paid them to do so. I am very very sorry, but I see zero difference between Huck's religious whackiness and the Obama's both hand pick Bible bits, barf them at others while utterly disregarding the bulk of that text. The have snit fits over a few words, while they reject the rest.
Barton and Obama have the same exact faith, the same exact Scriputures and Barton is being truthful about what they say. If you do not like it, you do not like the Book nor the faith.
So sickening to see how straights are when this shite comes up about them, compared to how they are about gay issues. Well, they say, the Bible DOES say it is a sin, and I am a Christian, so I HAVE to oppose marriage for gay people, because of the Bible being the word of God. Oh, you ask, then what of the slavery and the subservience of women? Oh, they say, that's outdated and does not apply to us in the modern times, so women can be President but the part about gays holds, why? Because they are bigoted, hate mongering hypocrites and liars.
So sick of the posturing on 'our side' as if the hate from 'our churches' is alright, but their hate, well, that is just out of line.
Hypocrites holding the Bible, spitting at civil rights, yet upset to learn that their Word of God orders, commands slavery. Oh, dear, they say, we thought it was just anti gay!

[thereismore]

10. Jesus certainly did not mind slavery. He said,

"And that slave who knew his master’s will and did not get ready or act in accord with his will, will receive many lashes, but the one who did not know it, and committed deeds worthy of a flogging, will receive but few. From everyone who has been given much, much will be required; and to whom they entrusted much, of him they will ask all the more."

Lk 12:47-48, NASB

So apparently it's a-OK to beat your slaves.

[mountainlion55]

16. jeebus

Its that unconditional love thing

[yellowcanine]

11. "all Americans would be forced-forced at gunpoint no less-to listen to every David Barton message"

If Huckabee wins the nomination I hope Obama's people aren't afraid to use this quote far and wide. If a Democrat had said something equivalent they would be crucified by the Republicans and the nattering pundit class.

[Politicalboi]

14. Jon missed it when

Fuckabee said something about his kids. Jon should have talked about Mike's kids.