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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 06:45 PM
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The United States faces a crisis not seen since the Depression
Maybe it's because Boston is different, a semi-detached city in one of the US's most liberal states. But the news that the world's biggest economy had had its creditworthiness challenged for the first time by the upstart rating agency Standard & Poor's (S&P) hardly seemed to register with the locals.

No one I met fulminated about loss of economic sovereignty or that S&P, whose purblind approval of junk mortgage debt as triple A was one of the causes of the financial crisis, had finally over-reached itself. Bostonians seemed unconcerned. Perhaps this was because it was just one more surreal moment in the pantomime that is American economic and political life.

That was how the markets judged the news. There was a momentary tremor in the Dow Jones. Some analysts shrugged it off; others thought it profoundly serious. But soon the markets were on the rise again as if nothing had happened.

The Obama administration played it down. Tim Geithner, the secretary of state for the Treasury, said that S&P was behind the political curve; the prospects for a bipartisan deal were now better than they had been for months. If the hope was to provoke a change in the debate about the US's record budget deficit, S&P must have been disappointed.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/apr/24/will-hutton-america-debt-crisis
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 06:55 PM
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1. as if things are any better at all in the UK
They aren't and gee look who wrote this.

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libmom74 Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 07:46 PM
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2. I trust the Guardian
much more than our crap media.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 08:07 PM
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3. We look and sound like damn fools IMO to the rest of the world. Yes, I'll trust the
Guardian any day than our crap propagandistic MSM.
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txlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 07:55 AM
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6. Agreed
You might get more truth from the Libyan media than the corporate-owned and "always on message" American MSM.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 01:35 AM
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4. K&R.
Yes it was just one more surreal moment in the pantomime.
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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 07:33 AM
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5. Our debt/GDP is 65% (and admittedly growing fast).
Edited on Sun Apr-24-11 07:36 AM by Lucky Luciano
Canada lost its AAA in the early 90s at 120%...and they are doing quite well right now.

In fact Canada has higher short term rates as controlled by their central bank, but their 10Y yields are lower than ours. You can maybe consider that a proxy for how much better their current credit rating is. S&P making an announcement should really cause no market movement as the bond market already priced in the fact that the US credit rating is beneath Canada's and isin need of some help.
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