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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 01:19 PM
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Girl 'murdered' by Roman soldiers in north Kent: " invading armies act the same throughout history"
Edited on Sat Apr-30-11 01:31 PM by villager
The body of a girl thought to have been murdered by Roman soldiers has been discovered in north Kent.

Archaeologists working on the site of a Roman settlement near the A2 uncovered the girl who died almost 2,000 years ago.

"She was killed by a Roman sword stabbing her in the back of the head," said Dr Paul Wilkinson, director of the excavation.

"By the position of the entry wound she would have been kneeling at the time."

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'Local populations were killed'

Many people have a romantic view of the Roman invasion, Dr Wilkinson said. "Now, for the first time, we have an indication of how the Roman armies treated people, and that large numbers of the local populations were killed.

"It shows how all invading armies act the same throughout history. One can only imagine what trauma this poor girl had to suffer before she was killed," he said.



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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-13211331
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libmom74 Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 01:31 PM
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1. War has always been
ugly. I think about all of the suffering we are causing in the world now, and for what. Sad.:cry:
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 11:42 PM
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10. when J. Caesar decided to make his bones he killed about a million
gauls in france. he dripped in blood and did this illegally. he did it to advance his career. Rome was the beast of the world and no wonder that the 666 of the bible was the numerological rendering of Nero's name
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 01:57 PM
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2. The only people who have a "romantic view" of the Roman invasion of Britian are people
who don't know anything about the Roman army. Of course they killed the local populations-and teh locals killed as many of the Roman soldiers as they could too. Thats the way it goes in invasions
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-11 09:03 AM
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Yeah, I was struck by that sentence.
My ancient ancestors were from what are now England and Ireland. I sure as hell don't have any favorable views about the invasions.
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-11 09:03 AM
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15. Yeah, I was struck by that sentence.
My ancient ancestors were from what are now England and Ireland. I sure as hell don't have any favorable views about the invasions.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 02:07 PM
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3. Well, sometimes it goes differently.
The story goes that my great-great-great-... grandmother (don't know the number of greats) was impregnated in Scotland by a red-headed Dane or Norseman. Hence my brother's flaming red beard. Some invaders just rape and pillage.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 04:31 PM
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4. We have certainly been there. I will never, ever forget the story of
the road block soldiers who killed the two toddlers and their grandparents in the back seat of a car in Iraq, because the soldiers had not bothered to learn the Iraqi word for stop and the parents in the front seat thought they had been waved through. I refuse to denigrate the Romans. We are far worse.
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colorado_ufo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 05:38 PM
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5. Maybe not worse; maybe the same.
Remember the account in the New Testament about how Herod had the Roman soldiers kill all boys - and quite possibly the girls, but then who counted girls? - up to the age of two, to be sure that he killed the one who was born (Jesus) who had been predicted to become the new king of the Jews.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 06:42 PM
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6. Well, she was probably an "insurgent" anyway.
:sarcasm:

(I wowish I didn't think I needed this, but unfortunately past experience has shown that it is never safe to leave off the :sarcasm: tag!)
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Keith Bee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:10 PM
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7. Some people are iron-deficient
I'm beginning to think DU is irony-deficient!
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peoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:23 PM
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8. Now, for the first time, we have an indication of how the Roman armies treated people
yeah wow, i always thought the Roman army was so nice.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 08:01 PM
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9. Exactly, peoli. Now someone please tell me who all these naive people are.
The Romans slaughtered entire tribes if they dared oppose the might of Rome.

Anybody ever heard of 'crucifixion'?


What a revelation that Romans would kill a woman. Anyone remember a woman named Boudica?

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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 11:44 PM
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11. and her daughters who they raped. they got theirs. go to London and
you will find a layer of black ash that covers the ground of the original settled area
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Boudica the Lyoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-11 12:11 AM
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12. I have
She is my hero.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-11 09:49 PM
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16. Many of us still admire Boudica....

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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-11 02:08 AM
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13. "A romantic view of the Roman invasion?"
This statement, by this alleged expert, is simply beyond absurd. Military operations no matter the era, war, invasions and alike are anything but romantic.


Pardon me for a moment............ :banghead:
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-11 08:04 AM
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14. Who the **** has a "romantic" view of Rome's invasion of anywhere?
I thought they were kind of the archetype of the evil empire?
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 01:25 AM
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17. "What have the Romans ever done for us?"
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 01:25 AM
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18. The aquaduct (nt)
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 05:53 AM
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19. i have watched many history shows about the engineering feats of the romans.
but it was their constant war that was the end of them.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 01:38 PM
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21. Terry Jones' (the Monty Python's Terry Jones) documentary Barbarians
describes many of the so-called "barbarians" that Rome conquered and points out that many of them were more "civilized" (as in "decent human beings") than the Romans.

For one thing, they were horrified by the Roman fondness for death matches between gladiators or between animals or between animals and humans.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 01:23 PM
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20. Well, she DID write "Romanes eunt domus" all over the settlement
What the hell is that supposed to mean? People called Romanes, they go, the house?
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