The false narrative that the Democratic party voted for the Bush Tax cuts needs to be laid to rest.

[Eko]

Whenever you talk to Conservatives about the Bush tax cuts they invariably say that the Democratic party voted for them too, how this easily checked fact continues to be unchallenged is beyond me. Conservatives use this to push their narrative that the Democratic party is also to blame for the economic position we are in. One thing we can do in this newfangled age of the innertubes is check the roll call vote lists. There were two tax cuts that Bush proposed, the first one was H.R. 1836 (Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001 ). For the Senate, the tallies are Republicans with 46 ayes, 2 nays, and 2 not voting. That would be 92% voting for it, 4% against it, 4% not voting. For the Democrats, 12 ayes, 31 nays, 2 present, 5 not voting. Or 24% for it, 62% against it, 4% present, and 10% not voting. That would be 76% not voting for it. It doesn't seem like the Senate Democrats voted for it, less than a quarter voted for it. To say that the senate Democratic party voted for H.R. 1836 would be quite a stretch by any means. How about the House? Republican yeas are 211, nays 0, a big fat goose egg. The Democrats 28 yeas to 153 nays. That would be 85% against it and 15% for it. That should lay that one to rest right? Right?
Then we have H.R.2. The 2.0 version if you will in 2003
more at link
Democratic party voted for the Bush tax cuts

[BlueCaliDem]

1. For the Purists, even if ONE Democrat voted for the Bush tax cuts

that means the whole Democratic Party voted for it, and the CONServatives are more than happy to run with that hyperbole and lie as if it's truth.

They forget, it's still a democracy and all the times Bush wanted more and more and more tax cuts, only a few RepubliDems, the minority in that caucus, gave Yea, giving the Bushpublicans all the ammo they needed to be able to lie that the Democrats are just as complicit in the Bush tax cuts as the Bushpublicans.

[Eko]

2. Lie

being the operative word.

[BlueCaliDem]

14. Unfortunately, it's not the word, but how you market

it that matters. And it's clear, Republicans, RepubliDems, and their corporate masters, know how to lie and market that lie in ways that would make Goebbels proud.

[OHdem10]

3. Here is why some of us get upset. I am no Purist but I am a Democrat.

If no Democrat had voted for it, would it NOT have passed.
The Senate is the most important vote. Forty Six Republicans
and 12 Democrats. It could never become law without
Democratic Party votes.

This is not being Purist. Conservadems have constantly
made it possible for what I consider the bad policies
of Republicans to become law.

IMO, this undermines a Democratic President. We could
not depend on them for a decent HCR Law.

It might be more accurate to say Conservative Democrats
rather than just Democrats.

Getting a few Democratic Votes makes it Bipartisan.
If it is bad law, why make it Bipartisan. The only
answer here is there is no difference between a Conservadem
and a Moderate Republican.

Defend the Democrats but call the Conservadems. There is
no denying they helped pass GWB taxcuts.

[Eko]

4. The word "they"

implies a plurality, and in this case that is far from the case. You would be more accurate to say that a minority did. To look on it from a flip side, if a few Republicans voted for the health care act does that mean they as a party voted for it? Of course not. It would be disingenuous to say that was the case.

[OHdem10]

5. We can agree to disagree. I said we can avoid saying Democrats

but say Conservative Democrats.

I say 2 Moderate Republicans voted for HCR.

[Eko]

6. Sure

I am not trying to argue with you at all. It seems you are decrying the individual Democrats that voted for the tax bills while I am saying that to say that the Democrats voted for the bills when that is demonstratively wrong being that a majority voted against them both times is a outright lie. The Democrats did not vote for the tax cuts, except for a minority. The majority of the Democrats voted against them both times. To say that the Democrats voted in favor of the tax bills is an outright farce. It is simply not true.

[former9thward]

7. Why are you going back to 2001?

The Bush tax cuts died at the end of 2010. Obama and the Democrats in both the House and Senate revived them in December, 2010 and renewed them with Obama signing them into law. This could not have happened without Democratic support.

[hayrow]

8. Exactly

Although the herd claims speaking truth to power is a good thing, it is also a good thing to speak the truth to the deluded. The Tweedledum and Tweedledummer hypothesis introduced by Nader seems to be proven over and over, yet there are those that can not see it.

[thelordofhell]

9. And I'm sick of this stupid meme as well

I guess you just don't give a shit about the unemployed that would get nothing and the middle class getting the tax increase shaft that would have happened if Obama did nothing.........just like the Democratic controlled congress did.

:mad:

[former9thward]

10. You see -- you wanted the Bush tax cuts too!

But you just want them for the "middle class". Sorry those cuts should have died for everyone. It was irresponsible to keep them for anyone.

[thelordofhell]

12. Shall I say it again

This wasn't just about the tax cuts. How many times does this has to be said before you get it?

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[hayrow]

13. Was it a dream?

Unless my memory is warped, didn't the Democrats control both houses of Congress and the Presidency from 2009 - 2011? Didn't the Bush regime use something called "reconcilliation" with regards to fiscal matters? Didn't Senator Al Franken famously say that Obama "punted on first down" in late 2010? Sorry, the Bush tax cuts were renewed by the Democrats. There is no curtain to hide behind on this one.

[CartoonDiablo]

11. This is a narrative?

I didn't realize this is even a narrative at all :/

[BlueCaliDem]

15. Yep. A false one, but a narrative marketed with determination, nonetheless. eom