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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 04:58 AM
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Senate cover-up of WMD lies underscores Democrats’ support for Iraq war
Edited on Sun Jul-11-04 05:03 AM by IndianaGreen
Now, for the Socialist point of view...

Senate cover-up of WMD lies underscores Democrats’ support for Iraq war
By Bill Van Auken
10 July 2004


The Democrats have neither the justification nor the inclination to brand the ongoing carnage in Iraq as “Bush’s war.” It is their war too.

The way in which this war was prepared and executed is an indictment not just of one administration or one party, but of the entire American ruling elite—from the Democrats, to the pliant media, to the corporations eager to profit from the seizure of Iraq and its oil wealth. It represents a monstrous violation of both international law and the democratic rights of the American people.

The invasion and occupation of Iraq are the realization of a consensus policy within US ruling circles to use Washington’s military might to secure domination of the world’s markets and control of vital resources, most importantly, oil.

If powerful sections of the financial oligarchy have now turned against Bush, it is, in the main, because they think he has botched the project. Kerry is increasingly seen as a more competent “CEO,” who just might avert a total disaster by means of some tactical adjustments.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/jul2004/sena-j10.shtml
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 05:28 AM
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1. The Plutocracy
The power elite now know that BushCo are a bunch of bunglers and can't even lie well. The Repubs and Dems may disagree on some domestic policies but overall they both adhere to basic Corp. and Multi-Corp wishes, after all that's the power elite that sustains both parties. The Plutocracy is disappointed with the over reaching neocons.
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Beearewhyain Donating Member (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 05:31 AM
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2. So...What do you suggest we do
It seems that there is much talk about how leftist ideology is given short shrift on this website and the world in general. My question would be why should a centrist as myself (in the European sense of centrist)would want to move to the view the article suggests? Ultimately it boils down to we (liberals of all stripes) have done a piss poor job of selling our viewpoint. It has nothing to do with who is correct but how well one side is able to make that view acceptable to the population at large.

Are you selling me on your viewpoint? No much. To get real change we have to hit things locally and state wide. Work things from the ground up.
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dumpster_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 08:51 AM
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7. YES, start with leftist propaganda; try a takeover of Pacifica radio
the people will think and support whatever the institutional propaganda organs tell them to think, if the organs tell them that consistently over a long period of time.

Pacifica radio is a non profit foundation with stations in several large metro areas. Station programming is ultimately controlled by publicly elected member boards. You can become a member by donating 25 bucks or volunteering 3 hours for pacifica.

If Leftists were to take over each station, we could change the current format (mostly avant garde/progressive music) to talk radio with a strong leftist bent. Sell the nights and weekends to informercials and use that revenue to buy more stations.

How many leftists are there in the USA who would support this tactic?
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 05:40 AM
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3. In fairness, not ALL dems were supportive of the invasion...Byrd, Kennedy
Edited on Sun Jul-11-04 05:41 AM by ixion
were among the harshest critics.

That said, they were defintely among the minority.

Any 'leader' regardless of party affiliation, who supported this invasion should be held accountable for war crimes under international law. This is not a gray area. It's very clear.


"Every State has the duty to refrain from the threat or use of force to violate the existing international boundaries of another State or as a means of solving international disputes, including territorial disputes and problems concerning frontiers of States."
-- World Court Digest
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 05:53 AM
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4. Left of Dems are in a bind.
Edited on Sun Jul-11-04 05:54 AM by Disturbed
I am Green and somewhat left of most of the Greens. Until Amerika has, Run 0ff elections, proportional rep., real public campaign financing and close all the Corp. campaign finance loopholes, no more Electoral College and open debates the two party sytem dominates.

Sure work from the ground up. The Green Party does have over 300 people in various local offices but it needs a Natl. State Senator and HR people in Congress.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 06:05 AM
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5. Well I was never for it and felt the Dem that were, were wrong.
I liked Dean better than Kerry but I will vote for Kerry. I would have felt he would have been the last person to vote for this war but it is hard to go against what you think the people want. Just once it would be nice if these people in govt. could stand up for what they really believe. The one thing you can say about Bush is, Right or wrong he was going after Saddam and the rest of us can go to hell.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 06:52 AM
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6. Hard Headed
OK Shrub gets high marks for being resolute. He is resolute in many areas and WRONG!

We on the Left are between a rock and a hard place.


The Plutocracy has the power over Govt. and the Media. Right now the Right Wing has the power over the Govt., Congress, Media and most of the Courts. That leads to a Corporate Fascism and Police State.

Maybe a Kerry/Edwards Admin. will be a bit less rough, eh?
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