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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 06:40 AM
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Chris Hedges: Libya: Here We Go Again

from truthdig:



Libya: Here We Go Again

Posted on Sep 5, 2011
By Chris Hedges


Here we go again. The cheering crowds. The deposed dictator. The encomiums to freedom and liberty. The American military as savior. You would think we would have learned in Afghanistan or Iraq. But I guess not. I am waiting for a trucked-in crowd to rejoice as a Gadhafi statue is toppled and Barack Obama lands on an aircraft carrier in a flight suit to announce “Mission Accomplished.” War, as long as you view it through the distorted lens of the corporate media, is not only entertaining, but allows us to confuse state power with personal power. It permits us to wallow in unchecked self-exaltation. We are a nation that loves to love itself.

I know enough of Libya, a country I covered for many years as the Middle East bureau chief for The New York Times, to assure you that the chaos and bloodletting have only begun. Moammar Gadhafi, during one of my lengthy interviews with him under a green Bedouin tent in the sprawling Bab al-Aziziya army barracks in Tripoli, once proposed marrying one of his sons to Chelsea Clinton as a way of mending fences with the United States. He is as insane as he appears and as dangerous. But we should never have become the air force, trainers, suppliers, special forces and enablers of rival tribal factions, goons under the old regime and Islamists that are divided among themselves by deep animosities and a long history of violent conflict.

Stopping Gadhafi forces from entering Benghazi six months ago, which I supported, was one thing. Embroiling ourselves in a civil war was another. And to do it Obama blithely shredded the Constitution and bypassed Congress in violation of the War Powers Resolution. Not that the rule of law matters much in Washington. The dark reasoning of George W. Bush’s administration was that the threat of terrorism and national security gave the executive branch the right to ignore all legal restraints. The Obama administration has made this disregard for law bipartisan. Obama assured us when this started that it was not about “regime change.” But this promise proved as empty as the ones he made during his presidential campaign. He has ruthlessly prosecuted the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, where military planners speak of a continued U.S. presence for the next couple of decades. He has greatly expanded our proxy wars, which rely heavily on drone and missile attacks, as well as clandestine operations, in Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia and Libya. Add a few more countries and we will set the entire region alight.

The NATO airstrikes on the city of Sirte expose the hypocrisy of our “humanitarian” intervention in Libya. Sirte is the last Gadhafi stronghold and the home to Gadhafi’s tribe. The armed Libyan factions within the rebel alliance are waiting like panting hound dogs outside the city limits. They are determined, once the airstrikes are over, not only to rid the world of Gadhafi but all those within his tribe who benefited from his 42-year rule. The besieging of Sirte by NATO warplanes, which are dropping huge iron fragmentation bombs that will kill scores if not hundreds of innocents, mocks the justification for intervention laid out in a United Nations Security Council resolution. The U.N., when this began six months ago, authorized “all necessary measures … to protect civilians and civilian populated areas under threat of attack.” We have, as always happens in war, become the monster we sought to defeat. We destroy in order to save. Libya’s ruling National Transitional Council estimates that the number of Libyans killed in the last six months, including civilians and combatants, has exceeded 50,000. Our intervention, as in Iraq and Afghanistan, has probably claimed more victims than those killed by the former regime. But this intervention, like the others, was never, despite all the high-blown rhetoric surrounding it, about protecting or saving Libyan lives. It was about the domination of oil fields by Western corporations. ............(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/libya_here_we_go_again_20110905/



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court jester Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 07:20 AM
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1. War is Peas!
Edited on Mon Sep-05-11 07:22 AM by court jester


A pea is most commonly the small spherical seed or the seed-pod of the pod fruit Pisum sativum.<1> Each pod contains several peas. Peapods are botanically a fruit,<2> since they contain seeds developed from the ovary of a (pea) flower. However, peas are considered to be a vegetable in cooking. The name is also used to describe other edible seeds from the Fabaceae such as the pigeon pea (Cajanus cajan), the cowpea (Vigna unguiculata), and the seeds from several species of Lathyrus...

Oh you bet theres so much more about Peas on the Wiki...



Isn't it clear? If EVERYONE ate their peas, there would be more peas!


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trud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 07:27 AM
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2. most useless comment I have ever seen on a worthwhile OP post n/t
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 09:00 AM
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5. He is the court jester, after all.
;)
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 08:07 AM
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3. ...but...but...
Saddam Gaddafi was an EVIL DICTATOR!.

” For all his dictatorial megalomania, Gaddafi is a committed pan-African - a fierce defender of African unity. Libya was not in debt to international bankers. It did not borrow cash from the International Monetary Fund for any "structural adjustment". It used oil money for social services - including the Great Man Made River project, and investment/aid to sub-Saharan countries. Its independent central bank was not manipulated by the Western financial system. All in all a very bad example for the developing world.”

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MD27Ak01.html



The only surprise here is how many completely bought the Get the WAR ON Propaganda Canpaign
so soon after Iraq. They didn't even change the marketing.
They simply scratched out "Saddam" and penciled in "Gaddafi".

How long before the Western "Peacekeepers" are "called in" to prevent "The Rebels" from completing their brutal Ethnic Cleansing?
And, of course, the "peacekeepers" will be forced to maintain order until a "Fair Election".
("Fair Election" = Pro-Western puppet is installed.)

The plan for Libya is the same as Iraq.
It WILL be turned into a Free Market HELL
with the Global Oil Corporations, the Global Banks, and the IMF OWNING EVERYTHING.

...but its ALL GOOD if Obama does it!

The Obama Administration's Justification for Starting a New WAR without Congressional Approval
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejvyDn1TPr8



If you're not FOR the New WAR in Libya,
you're WITH The Communists AlQaeda The Terrorists Saddam Qaddafi!!!



“The president does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.”
---Senator Obama, 12-20-2007
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 08:59 AM
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4. Who is this "Senator Obama"?
Sounds like a reasonable chap, maybe he should run for President.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 09:02 AM
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6. Been There, Done That
Got the bankster bailouts and worldwide Depression to prove it.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 11:25 PM
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 09:43 AM
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7. Tell it, bvar! Libya has the highest standard of living in Africa...
Qaddafi's craziness didn't prevent him from using the country's oil revenues to provide social services for his people.

And how dare that country have an independent national bank and not be in debt to international bankers. Well, we'll see to that, won't we? Take their oil for private profit and put their populace into debt up to their eyeballs for all time. I can hear the banksters laughing now.

I wonder how many people know that Libyans enjoy access to free health care and education. Imagine that!!

We can't allow that to continue. Libyans need a health care system like Americans have. :patriot: One run for PROFIT, where filthy-rich scum live in mansions while people die because they can't afford the premiums or co-pays.

Bush the Psychopath said they hate us for our freedoms. Well, they do hate us; That's for sure. And I can't say I blame them. I hate us, too, for the misery we inflict on 'the least of these'** around the world.


**Jesus. That pain-in-the-ass dude from the ME.

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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 09:55 AM
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8. After All,
Freedom Bombs aren't Free!
"Change" my ass.


You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.

Solidarity!
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 09:02 PM
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14. I didn't like Qaddhafi.
Still don't. I thought him a venal, brutal, crass dictator. Like so many others still kicking about.

I was also against intervention. It was irksome when they recited the litany of his horrible crimes. The only one recent was trying to put down protests. This wasn't a problem in other countries. So they had to list his atrocities.

Except none except putting down the protests was recent. Some they dug into the '70s and early '80s for. For 20 or 30 years there was barely a peep over these horrible crimes against humanity. Suddenly it was urgent, precisely when it served to save Western face, served to align ourselves with the putative forces of the future in the Arab world. Great claims to great morality rooted in venal and crass purposes.

Sad, really.
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Dokkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 02:50 PM
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11. YUP
Just chalk it up with what he said about

debt ceiling
Signing statments
War
Military budget
Drug import from Canada
Public option
Health insurance mandate
Medical Marijuana

INSERT YOUR BROKEN PROMISE HERE.

Yup, he played us like a flute
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 11:37 AM
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9. Chris Hedges is the LEFT.
Edited on Mon Sep-05-11 11:44 AM by Gregorian
I sure want him to keep being vocal. I wish we could get him on national tv. Most Americans wouldn't even understand what he's talking about.

Very few speak for us who know the truth about this ugly part of our society.

Also, people don't seem to realize that what Smedley Butler said was true in many ways. The military is like a forced investment. That's not really the correct wording. There very existence requires that they be used. They exist, so there will be war. But war isn't war. War is business. The military is the paver of business paths. So whenever the military is used, it is safe to look for what business interest is being served.
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 01:13 PM
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10. Not on national TV, but the next best thing...
If you set Google to the video mode and search 'Chris Hedges' you'll find numerous talks he's given at various venues around the country.

It's too bad that he's not on national tv, because his narative is straightforward and easily understood.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 03:55 PM
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12. K&R
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Fuddnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 04:21 PM
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13. Kick and Rec!
If there's a better writer in America today, than Chris Hedges, I haven't found them.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 07:20 PM
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16. One difference
all the Repukes are against it. They were and remain all for Operation I'm A War President
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