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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-04 11:29 AM
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U.S., world clearly are safer by Condi Rice
Edited on Sat Jul-17-04 11:30 AM by maddezmom
Lord Butler's panel released a report this week on the accuracy of Britain's intelligence prior to the Iraq war. It is the latest addition to a list of investigations, including those by former U.S. weapons inspector David Kay and the Senate Intelligence Committee.

None disputes that Saddam Hussein had contacts with and ties to terrorists. None disputes that he possessed weapons of mass destruction (WMD), used them against innocents, desired to resume their production and had capabilities that would have let him do so over time. None disputes his 12-year history of deceit, obstruction of United Nations weapons inspections or material breach of multiple U.N. Security Council resolutions. And no one disputes his failure to prove he had destroyed his WMD stockpiles as required by U.N. Resolution 1441.

In choosing a course of action in Iraq, President Bush had to consider these facts and answer simple questions: Could the international community continue to accept Saddam's 12-year defiance of its will, or would the world be safer if the word of the United Nations were seen to count and have consequences? Could the U.S., in the post-9/11 world, continue to hope for the best from Saddam, or would America be safer with his removal? The president and an international coalition concluded that Saddam had to go, and events since his removal have proved this judgment right. Iraq is no longer supporting terrorists, threatening the region or pursuing WMD.

Our efforts in Iraq have been critical to success in the global war on terror. Afghanistan today is an emerging democracy, no longer providing sanctuary to al-Qaeda. Libya's Moammar Gadhafi has surrendered his nuclear-weapons program. Pakistani scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan's secret nuclear-proliferation network, which sold technology and know-how to some of the world's most dangerous regimes, has been exposed. And the governments of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan are U.S. allies in the fight to root out terrorism. All of these developments have made America and the world safer places.

~snip~
more lies and distortion here:
http://www.usatoday.com/usatonline/20040716/6372008s.htm

and from the same paper today:
Has Iraq war made U.S. safer? That's questionable.
http://www.usatoday.com/usatonline/20040716/6372003s.htm
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-04 11:35 AM
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1. MY GOD...I missed your subject line. I started reading the crap and
Edited on Sat Jul-17-04 12:29 PM by LittleApple81
I am saying: who wrote this string of misstatements and outright lies? Who is this person who dares call himself a journalist? Then I click on the link to see the byline and say Ahhhh, come back and see you told me already.
Thank god it was not a real person with a brain who could spout such idiocy.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-04 12:22 PM
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3. makes my wanna puke that she can continue
to spew this crap.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-04 11:47 AM
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2. Do they really believe this?

I truly wonder sometimes if memebers of BushCo truly believe this garbage, or if their consciously aware they're spouting crap.

My memory can be just as short as the next person's, but the notion that this nation, much less the world, is "safer" than it was four years ago is so obviously wrong on so many levels that I don't see how a person in a position like Rice's can actually write something like this and believe it. I can see how they might expect sheep without brains to believe it, but c'mon.

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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-04 06:22 PM
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4. these neocons are the worst of humanity
concentrated into a tight little ball.

Really, the ease with which the spew garbage like this never ceases to amaze me.

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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-04 07:24 PM
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5. Safer? How?!!
I'm sending this LTTE in response:

Condoleeza Rice insists the war in Iraq has made us safer. But the regime did not threaten us (no WMD or alliance with al Qaeda), so how can it's removal make us safer? We must consider the other consequences of this action.

Islamic terrorism had been largely absent under Saddam Hussein's secular dictatorship, but the U.S. invasion of Iraq and subsequent mismanagement has opened the floodgates for terrorist violence. The extremists responsible for 9/11 have gained recruits and a new base of operations, while opposition and distrust of American foreign policy has never been higher.

The Bush administration has made their bed in Iraq, and they would rather sleep with the lies that put us there than take an honest appraoch and begin to repair the damage at home and abroad. They show no signs of changing their ways, so it is up to the American people to make the necessary change this November.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-04 08:03 PM
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6. Mr. Bush and Dr. Rice are war criminals
They should be brought before an international tribunal.

Dr. Rice's piece just repeats the same lies that the junta told prior to the war, lies that were long ago exposed and refuted. Once again, a junta official tells us that somehow invading a country that had no ties to terrorists made the world safer from terrorism, that somehow invading a country that was disarmed made the world safer from the threat of its arms.

How many times can these people repeat this horsepucky?
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 07:20 AM
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9. Mr. Bush and Dr. Rice are war criminals
Right here ----> www.brusselstribunal.org
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-04 10:44 PM
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7. Panda
Eats, shoots and leaves.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 03:10 AM
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8. How can the world be safer when all those people in Iraq die every day?
Oh that is right, they do not read the papers at the WH. Fun to live in a bubble.
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coda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-04 10:07 AM
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10. Since their "Terror incidents down to record levels!" lie was exposed
and shown to be at record high levels instead, they need some serious spin.


At any rate, it's nice to know that at least she's being "told" something. :shrug:


" I don't remember the al Qaeda cells as being something that we were told we needed to do something about. "

- Condoleezza Rice





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