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drakonyx Donating Member (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 06:59 PM
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Rick Perry's Presenter Puts Christianity Above Morality
I had to laugh at Robert Jeffress' question during his introduction of Rick Perry at a “Values Voters Summit: "Do we want a candidate who is a good, moral person, or one who is a born again follower of our Lord Jesus Christ?" The phrasing seemed to imply it was an either/or proposition.

And in 2010, Jeffress urged voters to use Christianity (not including the LDS variety) as a litmus test for endorsing candidates. "I believe we should always support a Christian over a non-Christian," he said. "The value of electing a Christian goes beyond public policies. ... Christians are uniquely favored by God, Mormons, Hindus and Muslims worship a false god. The eternal consequences outweigh political ones. It is worse to legitimize a faith that would lead people to a separation from God."

In other words, Jeffress would rather follow Hitler - who considered himself a Christian - than Gandhi or the Dalai Lama. Or, presumably, Mitt Romney.

http://www.theprovocation.net/2011/10/rick-perrys-presenter-puts-christianity.html
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 07:17 PM
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1. i'm an atheist, but i think it's wrong
Edited on Fri Oct-07-11 07:17 PM by DesertFlower
to slam another person's religion. if mormons weren't christians why would they be called "the church of jesus christ of ladder day saints"?

BTW. huckabee pulled that same shit during the last election.

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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 07:43 PM
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2. well ya know if it ain't in the bible it ain't chrstian lol nt
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BlueMTexpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 04:41 AM
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4. Was your quote a typo?
I had a wonderful vision of "ladder day saints" climbing up to the Great Beyond on a ladder that just falls short. LOL

I really hate this focus on "religion" which is more divisive than anything else. It also seems to be an obsession in the US more than in any other country in the industrialized world.

The best human beings I know do not need to announce their religious beliefs - or lack of them - at all. The overtly whatever religionists actually trample on and demean the teachings they profess to believe. Who they are and what they believe are demonstrated in their behavior towards others so much better than any label ever could do, mean or show.
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 08:22 AM
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8. lol. nt
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 08:56 PM
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3. He's right - it IS an either/or proposition.
He's explicitly rejecting good, moral people as potential leaders. There's no doubt or lack of clarity about it.
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MedicalAdmin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 08:19 AM
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7. The implications is that Christians at neither
Good nor moral.

You heard it here first folks, direct from the mouth of an expert on Xtianity.





Wadda putz.
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David Sky Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 07:19 AM
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5. I guess all those "real" Christians have no problem mixing
THEIR church in with the state! But anyone else's church, even if it is found in a "moral" candidate, well, that's just too much for them to tolerate.

Republicans like this Jeffess guy have become America's own Taliban.
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 07:22 AM
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6. Hitler really did not consider himself a Christian, not if you read "Mein Kampf".
He viewed Christians as weak, and dedicated himself to the "nibelungen ideal", the Wagnerian depiction of Norse mythology.
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 09:43 AM
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9.  DailyGrind51
DailyGrind51

Wel he was nominal a chatolic for all his life, even tho he for the most part was against, or at least "nautral" when it came to religous belife.. As long as you was not a jew that is..

Hitler wrote, and told a lot of things, counter to what he told in Main Kampf and so one.. He played it all ways, it just differ who he was talking to..

But he wanted to get rid of all church, and even had plans for what he should do with the Vaticane, when he had to get rid of Mussoloni and also rule Italy.. And replace all the church things, with a nazi religious symbolic ideology.. Like have Main Kampf and replacing the cross with the nazi symbols and so one.. And even tho he never managed to repleace it all, he managed to get Main Kampf into every newly weded gifts, as they was given the book free of sharge of course.

Diclotican
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 10:44 AM
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10. That's a laugh, alright.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 11:47 AM
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11. Oh, that's so funny...
Edited on Sat Oct-08-11 11:48 AM by BiggJawn
Just to clarify, I've known MANY "good, moral" people who also profess a belief in Christianity.

I've also known many "good, moral" people who profess *NO* belief in ANY religion.

They just have this "thing" about young, roast baby with Yorkshire Pudding...
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 01:02 PM
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12. typical American RW Khristians. They hate anyone who isn't like themselves.
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