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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 09:48 AM
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Is Bush "Loony Tunes" - Using Drugs to Control Erratic Behavior?
Edited on Wed Jul-28-04 10:02 AM by indigobusiness
Bush Using Drugs to Control Depression, Erratic Behavior
By TERESA HAMPTON
Editor, Capitol Hill Blue
Jul 28, 2004, 08:09

Bush is taking powerful anti-depressant drugs to control his erratic behavior, depression and paranoia, Capitol Hill Blue has learned.

The prescription drugs, administered by Col. Richard J. Tubb, the White House physician, can impair the President’s mental faculties and decrease both his physical capabilities and his ability to respond to a crisis, administration aides admit privately.

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Although GOP loyalists dismissed the reports an anti-Bush propaganda, the reports were later confirmed by prominent George Washington University psychiatrist Dr. Justin Frank in his book Bush on the Couch: Inside the Mind of the President. Dr. Frank diagnosed the President as a “paranoid meglomaniac” and “untreated alcoholic” whose “lifelong streak of sadism, ranging from childhood pranks (using firecrackers to explode frogs) to insulting journalists, gloating over state executions and pumping his hand gleefully before the bombing of Baghdad” showcase Bush’s instabilities.

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Although the exact drugs Bush takes to control his depression and behavior are not known, White House sources say they are “powerful medications” designed to bring his erratic actions under control. While Col. Tubb regularly releases a synopsis of the President’s annual physical, details of the President’s health and any drugs or treatment he may receive are not public record and are guarded zealously by the secretive cadre of aides that surround the President.

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4921.shtml
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This needs nailing down.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 09:51 AM
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1. Bush's Erratic Behavior Worries White House Aides
Bush's Erratic Behavior Worries White House Aides
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=602189

about 300 posts I think?
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 09:52 AM
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2. Umm. This sounds like baloney and your thread title is offensive.
We all know that Bush suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder, however the supposed diagnoses are not diagnoses at all. Even a winger physician would refrain from using such baloney terms. This is a hogwash piece from the word go.

As for your use of "Looney Tunes," you should be ashamed. People who suffer from true mental illness are not "Looney Tunes," my friend. Please show some decency.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:01 AM
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6. Yes, it is offensive.
Buggs Bunny, Daffy Duck and Porky Pig are OFFENDED that you would compare them to an incompetent alcoholic idiot!
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:11 AM
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16. I agree with you indigo
It seems it doesn't matter to some people on this board when you raise concerns about a "leader" who is a known alcoholic and drug user. I don't like the fact that someone like that is making major decisions that has already crippled this country. Thanks for posting the article. I appreciate it. :hi:
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:12 AM
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18. Are you calling me sick?
I wonder if the mods will delete your post. Mine have been deleted for saying a lot less.
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Not Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 09:53 AM
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3. Tubb, et al will deny...the media will ignore
Nothing to see here...go home.

Which of course, means it's true.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 09:56 AM
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4. Totally agree. The electorate needs to be fully informed on the
President's mental state of mind. I am convinced that Bush is on some drug perscriptions....I suspect that he might be prone to epileptic seizure's.....(falling off bikes, pretzel incident). This medication most like does sedate him, physically/mentally. It would not surprise me that this administration would not inform the American people on such an important aspect of a President's health.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:03 AM
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7. If he's on this type of medication he's unfit for office IMO.
We have a right to know if he's taking this stuff.
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olddem43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 09:57 AM
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5. If this could be verified in any way,
it would be the final nail in Bushco's coffin. However, it is highly unlikely.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:08 AM
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13. Do you discount the book written by Dr. Frank.
Why would he risk his career with lies and slander?

But, until one of the aides comes out of the shadows, this won't get too far.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:07 AM
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11. He is clearly a Prescription Drug Addict like Rush
or WORSE because he knows he cannot be stopped and NO ONE will DARE investigate him for it.

They would either be character assassinated or ACTUALLY assassinated (or perhaps reassigned like the Plame Head Investigator so their work could be sabotaged)

Liek any other Emperor. Like Hitler ans Stalinn, to Bunnypants the entire National Pharmacopeia is his Medicine Cabinet.

And he uses it...ALOT. Of this I have absolutely NO doubt.

Totalitarian Scum Dictators are all the same.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:12 AM
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17. His freakish behavior and bad judgement implies something.
Think how this magnifies the tragedy of the "collateral damage" left in the wake of this madness.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:24 AM
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26. Too wild
Why no simple discussion why Bush can only ride bikes and not jog? Is his routine badly disrupted? Telltale, but unexamined words dropped right on the front page show a regimen in disarray, a body struggling for control and almost slapstick pratfalls on the bike with the lamest of defensive explanations(also unexamined). For example, is the flat, carefully cultured path at Crawford that strewn with obstacles? Why would his security allow hium to take suicidal risks? Apparently even getting on the bike may be dangerous, but the stoic Secret service is allowing him the benefit of the doubt on that. The "reporter" is restrained to the point of total repression or incompetence.

No substantive or curious discussion on the even this simplest most visible of shockingly worrisome signs?

That dangerous, maneating manly mountain bike! "Clears my head". Clears it of what? The stock campaign lies, the easy mangled jargon, the policy decisions stuck in repeat mode? Clears it of worries that he can't eventually keep having everything his divine way?

Plenty of real stuff to ponder without undocumented speculation on what drugs he is taking. Kennedy, Reagan, Nixon, FDR.... It is not the drugs but how much need there is for them- which is not so secret after all.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:42 AM
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28. TEN THINGS YOU CAN DO TO FIGHT STIGMA
http://www.naminys.org/factsheets.htm

"3. WATCH YOUR LANGUAGE. Most of us, including mental health professionals and mental health consumers, use terms and expressions related to mental illness that may perpetuate stigma. We use psychiatric labels to disparage, such as when we complain about aggressive drivers and call them "nuts" and "lunatics." We also depersonalize sufferers of mental illness by referring to them generically as "the mentally ill" or as "a schizophrenic." We can avoid contributing to stigma by avoiding such language and by using People First language to refer to individuals with psychiatric disorders.

4. MONITOR MEDIA AND REPORT STIGMATIZING MATERIAL to any of a number of organizations. The National Stigma Clearinghouse, the National Mental Health Association, and the National Alliance for the Mentally Ill protest such material by contacting the people -- authors, editors, movie producers, advertisers -- responsible for the material.

5. RESPOND TO STIGMATIZING MATERIAL IN THE MEDIA. Write, call, or e-mail stigmatizers yourself, expressing your concerns and providing more accurate information that they can use. The organizations mentioned above can help you figure out who to contact."
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 11:24 AM
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36. Wow! Even now you dig your hole even bigger.
Amazing.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 11:40 AM
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40. Wow! You really can't stop, can you?
You just can't stop digging, can you?

Humor has a time and a place. This was clearly not either, not in the context of the conversation and the responses. The humor here was brought forth because one poster found out that he'd probably gone too far, didn't know how to just say that, so decided to see about the possibility of getting a response. Besides, "it's just humor" is the excuse Rush Limbaugh uses all the time, so I think we both know that it's a cop out.

When will you respond to posts 21 and 34, by the way?
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 11:49 AM
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44. When are you going to respond to posts 21 and 34?
Edited on Wed Jul-28-04 11:50 AM by HuckleB
Your selective responses are very telling as well, not too mention the almost nonsensical nature of this particular response.

I showed the reality of the supposed humor. I guess that doesn't suit your purposes, but then nothing that doesn't defend your defenseless thread title and defense of that thread title suits your purposes, apparently.

Further, I don't have to tell you anything about myself, since my history has nothing to do with the question at hand. You are trying to play games, rather than take a serious look at what has gone down here today. To put it bluntly, you are on the wrong side of history on this matter. Why are you so defensive about it? Why do you insist on staying there?
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 11:56 AM
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46. In other words, you are speechless.
You are unable to respond, so you resort to calling names. How typical does it get on this board today?

Sheesh.

:eyes:
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 11:23 AM
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35. It's definitely time to give your pride a rest.
Education is a good thing, and this is one area where you could use some big-time education. If the piece by NAMI didn't send the bells a ringing, then there's a great deal that you've missed on this matter.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 11:37 AM
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39. Thanks for making me laugh.
It's interesting to note the posts you do and don't respond to, by the way.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 11:42 AM
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42. No.
Are you a doctor?
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47. Locking.
Discussion has degenerated into excessive vitriolic back and forth personal attacks between participants.
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