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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 08:11 AM
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The Muslim Brotherhood, Nazis and Al-Qaeda
Saudis didn't want to come back. Saudis started paying bribes to Osama Bin Ladin and his followers to stay out of Saudi Arabia. Now the MAK split in half. Azzam was mysteriously assassinated apparently by Osama Bin Ladin himself. The radical group -- the most radical of the merge of the Arab fascists and religious extremists -- Osama called that al Qaeda. But to this day there are branches of the Muslim Brotherhood all through al Qaeda.

Osama Bin Ladin's second in command, Ayman al-Zawahiri, came from the Egyptian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood, the Egyptian Islamic Jihad, the results of a Palestinian Islamic Jihad.

There are many flavors and branches, but they are all Muslim Brotherhoods. There is one in Israel. The organization you know as “Hammas” is actually a secret chapter of the Muslim Brotherhood. When Israel assassinated Sheik Yassin a month ago, the Muslim Brotherhood published his obituary in a Cairo newspaper in Arabic and revealed that he was actually the secret leader of the Muslim Brotherhood in Gaza.

So the Muslim Brotherhood became this poison that spread throughout the Middle East and on 9/11, it began to spread around the world.

I know this sounds like some sort of a sick fantasy, but go to your computer and type in the words “Vanna,” V-a-n-n-a and the word “Nazi,” N-a-z-i, and you will see all of the articles come up. Those are all the pieces of information that the CIA was trying to hide from its employees. It did not want them to know the awful past. So, in 1984, when I was exposing European Nazis on the CIA payroll, at the same time they were trying to hide from Congress the fact that they had Arab Nazis back on the payroll to fight the Russians -- a stupid and corrupt program.

So, when Bob Baer studied his files, he was just stunned. A whole generation: the current CIA people know nothing about this. And believe me, the current generation CIA are good and decent Americans and I like them a lot. They're trying to do a good job, but part of their problem is their files have been shredded. All of these secrets have to come out.

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el_gato Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 08:22 AM
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1. This person is somewhat delusional

The CIA has always been an extesion of American fascism.

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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 08:34 AM
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2. Great Article
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 08:50 AM
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3. The C.I.A. & The Muslim BrotherhoodHow the CIA set the stage for Sept11
You might find this interesting as well


Reverend Franklin Graham, the pugnacious preacher who delivered the prayer at President George W. Bush's 2001 inauguration, might have a bone to pick with the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). When Franklin branded Islam "a very evil and wicked religion" after the 9/11 terrorist attacks, he had no idea that American spies were once eager to promote a Muslim leader in the Middle East modeled after his own father, the famous evangelist Billy Graham.

The CIA often works in mysterious ways - and so it was with this little-known cloak-and-dagger caper that set the stage for extensive collaboration between US intelligence and Islamic extremists. The genesis of this ill-starred alliance dates back to Egypt in the mid-1950s, when the CIA made discrete overtures to the Muslim Brotherhood, the influential Sunni fundamentalist movement that fostered Islamic militancy throughout the Middle East. What started as a quiet American flirtation with political Islam became a Cold War love affair on the sly - an affair that would turn out disastrously for the United States. Nearly all of today's radical Islamic groups, including al-Qaeda, trace their lineage to the Brotherhood.

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To understand what happened on that fateful day when terrorist strikes leveled the World Trade Center and damaged the Pentagon, one must revisit the turbulent changes that took place a half century earlier in the land of the sphinx. After seizing power in a 1952 military coup Egyptian Col. Gamal Abdul Nasser quickly threw prominent Communists in jail. This raised eyebrows among US cloak-and-dagger operatives who were eager to oblige when Nasser requested help in upgrading Egypt's ineffectual secret service. But the US government "found it highly impolitic to help him directly," the late CIA agent Miles Copeland acknowledged in his memoirs, The Game of Nations , so the CIA subcontracted more than a hundred German Third Reich vets, who specialized in Nazi security and interrogation techniques, to do the job.

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Copeland was off and running. He visited several Egyptian mosques in search of an Islamic preacher who could sway the Arab masses in a manner most congenial to US interests. Although Copeland never found the CIA's messiah, his furtive machinations were not without impact. While on the prowl for a Muslim Billy Graham, Copeland reached out to leaders of the religious revival movement known as the Ikhwan, or Muslim Brotherhood, which sought to build an Islamic society from the bottom up. The seeds of a clandestine relationship between the CIA and the Ikhwan were planted by Copeland, who surmised that the Muslim Brothers, by virtue of their strong antipathy to Arab nationalism as well as Communism, might be a viable counterweight to Nasser in the years ahead, US intelligence would become a defacto partner of the Brotherhood as it evolved from a mass-based social reform organization into the wellspring of Islamic terrorism.
RAZOR Magazine September 2004

long article not on line will post more later
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 09:00 AM
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4. So this was how American foreign policy helped to spread
democracy, peace, freedom, equality and human rights throughout the rest of the world. No wonder they love us so much.

It's hard... right George? It's hard when your predecessors chickens come home to roost. Real hard. And you are following in their footsteps.... nice job.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 09:10 AM
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5. more from the article
"Any contact Miles had with the Muslim Brotherhood was not official policy," insists retired CIA officer Raymond Close, a colleague of Copeland in the Middle East. "It was strictly solo work on his part. There were an awful lot of things that Miles did that were totally off the board."

Whether Copeland's efforts were "off the board" or otherwise, the Muslim Brotherhood was certainly a force to be reckoned with. Since its inception in 1928, the Society of the Muslim Brothers sought to restore Islamic law and values in the face of growing Western influence. Launched as a social welfare association, it became a focal point of resistance to British colonial rule. The Special Order Group, a secret paramilitary wing set up by the Brotherhood, carried out guerrilla raids in Egypt during the 1940's, bombing British installations and killing British soldiers and civilians. By the time Brotherhood founder Hassan al-Banna was assassinated in 1949, the fast-growing Ikhwan, with its distinctive green flag crossed with white swords and a red Koran, had a half million Egyptian members and affiliates in several other countries.

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American intelligence formed a three-way tryst with the Saudis and the Muslim Brothers, according to Robert Baer, the former case officer in the CIA's Directorate of Operations. With the CIA's implicit approval, the Saudi royals channeled funds to the Brothers who joined a US-backed, anti-Nasser insurgency in Yemen in 1962. "Like any other truly effective covert action, this one was strictly off the books," explains Baer. "There was no CIA funding, no memorandum of notification to Congress. Not a penny came out of the Treasury to fund it. All the White House had to do was give a wink and a nod to countries harboring the Muslim Brothers."

Yemen was just a warm up. To give a boost to Islamic proselytizing the Saudis with CIA encouragement, founded the Muslim World League in 1962. Underwritten initially by several donors including the Saudi-based Aramco oil consortium (then a CIA collaboration, the League established a formidable international presence with representatives in 120 countries. Members of the Muslim Brotherhood occupied key staff positions at the League while it disseminated anti-communist religious propaganda and sponsored the construction of mosques and Islamic center's around the world.
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oldlady Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 09:38 AM
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6. someone help me, please?
I read the article. I'm ashamed to say I'm not familiar with this writer, John Loftus. I have read Robert Baer's books (who is mentioned in the article). Is this a legitimate source? I looked at the bio section & can see he was once in high gov't levels, but, there's something odd about the way he writes in the article & he's on FOX?? anyone able to clear my head -- espionage confuses the heck out of my simple mind..
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 01:59 PM
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8. Loftus has written a lot on the Bush Family/Nazi connections
My impression of him is that everything he writes is colored by a tendency to put anti-Semitism at the center of all fascist manifestations, but that he's a good researcher and has done a lot of useful work.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 10:18 AM
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7. "Al Qaeda" is a name made up by the US/UK security and
intelligence services to band together loose knit groups of organised crime, hired by politicians via their defence/policing agencies to perpetrate terrorism, conceal corruption and line the pockets of paid mercenaries.

The cold war roots lie in the P2 Lodge, a paedophile masonic cult whose tentacles embrace all religions, races and continents.

The neocon agenda after 9/11 was to divert attention from security/intelligence data that proved financial and other links between mercenaries planted by Thatcher/Reagan/Bush1 for the "New Millenium".

Much information about this is held in the UK and out of reach of the Blair administration.

Detailed evidence of top statesmen and politicians involved in all aspects of international corruption todaqy were unearthed by City of London police and handed over to the Roberto Calvi trial in Rome after 22 years of mysterious non-existence (Banco Ambrosiano collapsed in 1982).

The links to organised crime outside the largely Christian domain are about to be presented in the London BCCI class action, some 13 years after the collapse of that bank and after gargantuan fights between the plaintiffs in the lawsuit (who are suing the Bank of England for misfeasance) and MI5/MI6 for disclosure of vital documents that show that what is loosely termed "Al Qaeda" was specifically recruited in the 1980s and allowed to flourish for personal gain of today's top politicians.

It could all have gone so swimmingly well for them, BUT.......ENRON suddenly collapsed and the first Bush house of cards toppled.

I expect the run up to the November 2 US presidential election to take a very bloody turn any minute now.......

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