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The Spirit of JFK Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 03:31 PM
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"I'm a Democrat Voting for Bush"
From the UK Times online
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-1314232,00.html

Don't know if anybody saw this, but the New York correspondent (sarah Baxter) wrote a piece saying she was a one-issue voter and that issue was the war on terrorism.

Besides being self-aggrandizing, some snippets of genius include:

"My decision is based on a straightforward proposition: I do not want the global jihadists and women-hating fundamentalists to be celebrating Bush’s defeat. They do not deserve to win, even if Bush deserves to lose, a position I am not quite willing to conced"

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"Only when he wooed and won the hand of Teresa Heinz, the billionaire baked beans widow, was Kerry again able to indulge in the agreeable elite life to which he feels entitled.

...I could perhaps overlook that, given that Bush is also from a privileged family, but I cannot forgive Kerry’s complacency on foreign policy."

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"So has Bush inflamed hatred in the Arab world? Yes and no: he certainly did not start it. One of the most unconvincing arguments advanced by the Democrats is that the jihadists favour a Bush-Cheney victory. I don’t buy it. Their leaders are on the run and no government will afford them safe haven. They have not yet managed to pull off another attack on America. It is hard for Bush to boast about this, lest he tempt fate, but he deserves some credit."

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"As for Kerry, he has been sounding more and more cynical with each passing suicide and car bomb. He is giving Iraqi insurgents — who, true to their form under Saddam, relish killing their own people most of all — every reason to step up their attacks in the hope of sabotaging their own elections and replacing Bush in the White House. It is the behaviour of a politician with more ambition than conscience."

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Besides taking her pompous name dropping to task my letter to the editor questioned her true political leanings as she parroted Republican talking points like a pro...all misconstruence and spin, no substance. I then reminded her that her main arguments (and Bush's) had widely been discredited for some time and finished by chiding her, saying that this country has MANY serious problems and that being a one issue voter in this election is irresponsible, especially when it's obvious she hasn't been paying attention.

The Time actually has a feedback page for this story (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,616-1317742,00.html) and Ms. Baxter will be answering submitted questions on Friday. I saw we submit a few.



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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 03:34 PM
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1. Another liar for busholini.
Not unlike the transparent prevaricators that spout their absurd "Democrat voting for busholini" bullshit on c-span and hate radio.
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 03:35 PM
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2. So, she's going to vote for Bush...
...just to spite the terrorists. Grow the fuck up.
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wysi Donating Member (475 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 03:36 PM
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3. Murdoch-owned rag (Times of London)
... they reprint a lot of their crap in our paper here (Christchurch Press).
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mourningdove92 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 03:40 PM
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4. why are you taking up DU space with this trash?
post it over at freakville.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 03:42 PM
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5. No Shit, couldn't have said it any better myself. n/t
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 03:43 PM
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6. Attention DUers...
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mourningdove92 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 03:55 PM
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9. I know (hanging my head with shame). Most of the time I can
control myself.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 03:49 PM
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7. no real Democrat would ever consider voting for that piece of shit
nt
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 03:53 PM
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8. Funny isn't it that they can find an 'occasional' Democratic for bush*
but they fail to report how many Republicans have decided to vote for Kerry? The Republicans voting for Kerry are LIFELONG Republicans, including the son of Dwight D. Eisenhower...that is SO much more important to me, than some selfish well paid journalist, who probably enjoys her tax cut to bush* making the US safe...which it has been pr oven he has not!
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 03:57 PM
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10. The one myth that needs dispelling.
"Bush is tough on Terror". It's the number one reason people give for voting for Bush even though they don't like him. Everyone knows his jobs plan sucks, his education plan sucks, his EVERYTHING plan sucks. But he is still perceived as being "tough on terror". It's absurd, since he allowed a terrorist attack on the United States, failed to capture the man who planned and executed it, and then attacked someone who had nothing to do with said attack. . . but apparently we haven't screamed that at the top of our lungs enough yet.

Get to it.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 04:19 PM
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11. Standard third party PR testimonial.
I'm a chicken voting for Col. Sanders.
I a min-wage worker who hates unions.
I'm a outdoorsman that hates environmental protections.
:puke: :puke: :puke:
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 05:06 PM
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12. I'm voting for b*sh too.
For ex-pResident.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 05:16 PM
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13. Ds for W/Rs for JK. 1 to 20 - Not bad odds.
As I'm out there campaigning, I meet Republican after Republican who is fed up with Bush's incompetence and voting for Kerry. For every Democrat voting Republican, there must be 20 Republicans voting Democratic -- or not voting at all.

As for Kerry's stand on terrorism. No Democrat would sit around for nine months like Bush did ignoring warnings about imminent terrorist attacks. Why? Because no Democrat could get away with it. Only a Republican, who is given the benefit of the doubt on defense could afford to be lackadaisical about terrorism. And, in spite of his rhetoric, Bush is lackadaisical about terrorism. He would never have wasted our defense resources in Iraq if he had been serious about going after global terrorism. He would never have sent the Homeland Security money to rural areas when it is needed in urban areas . . . .

Bush is about boondoggles for the rich. That's all. He will not defend the U.S. against terrorism unless he sees a way that he and his friends can make a profit on it.

If you want to prevent terrorist attacks, vote for Kerry, vote for any Democrat. It's the only way to get government that cares about you and not just the very rich.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 05:18 PM
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14. This journalist is typical of the
conservative stooges that masquerade as liberals in the media so that the media can claim to be balanced and fair. Now that she has outed herself as a Republican, I hope the Times will hire a real liberal Democrat in her place. We liberals deserve our say in the media.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:23 AM
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15. Sounds like Ron Silver and Ed Koch
Bush supporter = one issue voter

Terra
God
Gays
Tax Cuts
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MISSDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:01 PM
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16. Shades of Zell Miller.
She just wants to be noticed.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 01:57 PM
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17. According to her logic, Bush should be President for life
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MODemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 07:52 PM
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18. Sarah Baxter is not a democrat
The real Democrats do not vote for fascists. She is using the same logic as Ed Koch did (on the Jon Stewart show), and I don't believe him either.

:dunce:
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wysiwyg Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 08:29 AM
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19. I'm suicidal and hate the world so I support Bush!
Edited on Thu Oct-21-04 08:32 AM by wysiwyg
<sarcasm>
I used to be such a socially conscious person but now I hate everyone around me. You know, some days I just don't want to continue in this life and I say "Why not take the rest of the world with me!". That's why I support George W. Bush for President!
</sarcasm>
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CatholicEug Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 02:30 PM
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20. Bah
I tend not to take these sorts of things very seriously. It's like the people who call Washington Journal and say, "I'm a lifelong Republican, but now I only vote Democratic." C'mon, it's a Trojan Horse.
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Tony_Illinois Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 05:18 PM
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21. Bush Getting More Black Votes Than Expected
Below is a column by Clarence Page that explains how Bush is polling better among black voters than anyone expected. I was surprised and disappointed to read this.
Comments?


A SURPRISING BLACK "BUMP" FOR BUSH
by Clarence Page

Published October 20, 2004

WASHINGTON -- Could President Bush receive a surprisingly large black turnout on Election Day? Considering recent history, the idea sounds about as likely as pop star Michael Jackson receiving a Man of the Year Award from the Children's Defense Fund. But elections can produce unexpected results. That's why we hold them.

This week I found myself blinking my eyes in disbelief over two major polls that showed a big bump for Bush among likely black voters.

A New York Times poll released Tuesday showed that among likely voters, 47 percent support Bush, 45 percent are for Sen. John Kerry and 2 percent for Ralph Nader.

But in the race breakdown, the Bush-Cheney ticket is buoyed by an amazing 17 percent from African-Americans. (Kerry receives 76 percent of the black voters and Nader only 1 percent.)

Although 17 percent is still less than one in five, it is more than twice the tiny 8 percent turnout that the Bush-Cheney ticket received in the 2000 election.

Also on Tuesday, a poll with a much larger sample of black voters was released by the Washington-based Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies, a leading think tank on black-oriented issues. It showed a very similar African-American boost for the Bush-Cheney ticket: 18 percent versus 69 for Kerry and 2 percent for Nader.

Since the center's poll proved remarkably prescient in the 2000 presidential election, showing 9 percent black support for Bush (only 1 point short of what the ticket actually received), I wondered if a virtual black blowout for Bush was on the way.

David Bositis, the center's senior political analyst, inserted a cautionary note: He thinks Bush will get more like 12 percent to 14 percent at best. Even so, a black defection that large would almost certainly signal doom for Kerry.

What accounts for this black surge in support for Bush?

Bositis says most of it comes from conservative, churchgoing African-Americans who are over age 50, opposed to gay marriage and have not experienced a decline in their incomes during the Bush years.

On the flip side, Kerry's strongest support among African-Americans comes from adults between the ages of 18 and 35 who feel financially worse off than the older generations, according to poll takers.

That marks an unexpected generational switch. In 2000, Bositis said, more members of the black under-35 group called themselves Republicans or independents than any other age bracket. This year, more of them call themselves Democrats than any other age bracket and more of the older voters call themselves Republicans or independents.

Social conservatism is hardly new to us African-Americans, but in the past, our economic and political liberalism kept us voting for Democrats since the days of Franklin D. Roosevelt's New Deal. This year, Karl Rove, Bush's senior political adviser, urged the president to reach out to evangelicals and other social conservatives and that gesture appears to have paid off among blacks too.

This outreach to black social conservatives may work particularly well with a candidate like Kerry, whose New England reserve varies widely in manner from President Bill Clinton, whose electric ability to connect with black crowds is legendary.

I suspect Bush's high-level black Cabinet appointments--like Secretary of State Colin Powell and National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice-- make him more palatable among African-Americans, even among those who disagree with him on many social and economic issues. A little symbolism can go a long, long way.

All of which poses a big challenge for Kerry. Younger voters of all races may give him the most support, but they also have the lowest voter turnout rates.

Better news may await Kerry in the crucial swing states, which can vary widely from national trends. An Ohio statewide poll by the University of Cincinnati, for example, shows that in a swing state where voters are quite evenly divided overall, only 3 percent of African-Americans support Bush and 95 percent support Kerry. Ohio's heavy decline in manufacturing jobs in recent years appears to have given Kerry a big boost among black voters there.

Nevertheless, the polling figures should be a loud wake-up call for those Democratic leaders inclined to take black voters for granted. No constituency is guaranteed to any party, not even in a year of extremely polarized politics.
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Pump Man Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 05:39 PM
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22. Someone need to get president and start needless war and stay in power
What a stupid bitch!
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