Oregon Police Fire On Bystanders ...

[fjc]

...Some residents of Jacksonville feel that their First Amendment rights were taken away as they witnessed an encounter that resulted in pepper balls fired into crowds of men, women, and children as an abrupt “sweep” of a sidewalk erupted into chaos as the presidential motorcade drove by last Thursday...


http://www.iconoclast-texas.com/Columns/Guest/guest42a.htm

[Lightning Rod]

1. were they

jalapeno pepper balls?

[ThomCat]

2. I hope we're reaching the tipping point.

How much more until it's generally known and accepted that bush is killing civil liberties? We need to reach that tipping point to make it more difficult for this kind of shit to ever happen again.

[MundoQueGanar]

4. I don't think Kerry will reinstate those lost liberties

You're right, ThomCat, and everybody who feels that civil liberties have come under attack since 9/11 is right, but has anyone actually heard Kerry say that he will roll back the attacks on civil liberties, repeal the Patriot Act, defend Muslims and Arabs from racial profiling, or work to end police brutality, all of which are signs that the police state is growing in the US?

He's not going to do it. I'm not saying don't vote for him (though I'm not), I'm just saying don't go to sleep if Kerry wins.

[ThomCat]

5. I agree

I've already been called a closet freeper for daring to say that Kerry isn't our ideal candidate. He's even stated that he helped write the patriot act.

The Nation just came out with an excellent endorsement that states all the reasons why they are strongly endorsing Kerry despite serious disagreements over his policies.

We the people need to reach that tipping point because that will allow us to pressure any administration into respecting civil liberties.

[Gyre]

3. too many cops

with not enough real work to do.

Gyre

[MasonJar]

6. Excuse me. The above is totally unfair and uninformed. Kerry has

voted for every major piece of Civil Rights legislation since 1985. He receives 100% from the NAACP, the Human Rights Campaign, the Leadership Council on Civil Rights, the ABA; he supports environmental justice, prohibition of racial profiling, expanding hate crime law, programs that seek to enhance diversity.