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dand Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 07:14 AM
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Scott Ritter: The war on Iraq has made moral cowards of all of us.
More than a 100,000 Iraqis have died - and where is our shame and outrage.

The full scale of the human cost already paid for the war on Iraq is only now becoming clear. Last week's estimate by investigators, using credible methodology, that more than 100,000 Iraqi civilians- most of them women and children- have died since the US led invasion is a profound moral indictment of our countries. The US and British governments quickly moved to cast doubt on the Lancet medical journal, citing other studies.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1340562,00.html
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 07:15 AM
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1. Anyone have a link to the "100,000 dead" source?
thx
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 07:34 AM
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2. This will get you started:
Edited on Mon Nov-01-04 07:38 AM by Benhurst
www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/10/29/1098992291779.html


On edit: link should end in "html" not "htm ..." but I can't get it to post that way.
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Maeve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 07:40 AM
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3. Here's a VERY mainstream source
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 11:21 AM
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9. It's up at The Lancet
You'll need to register, but the text of the study is available for free. Links from the home page.

The Lancet
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 08:16 AM
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4. Not All Of Us Are Moral Cowards
Just as not all of us have the range and volume of some.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:57 AM
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7. People Here got out to Protest
Screamed, fought and yelled that the loss of civilian life, our soldiers and the overall cost would be of extreme. We are not cowards for doing all we could. I predicted nearly the number of deaths recorded so far and can only hope that Iraq has some better future.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 09:43 AM
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5. he is right
Our constitution starts with these words:
WE THE PEOPLE. That means we are the govt.
We have to take responsiblity for letting
sociopaths and criminals take over.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:12 AM
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6. I participated in MoveON's anti-Iraq war and supported Howard Dean
in the primaries, but my senators - Dodd and Lieberman - voted for IWR and have supported the war regardless of my actions against the war and of course Kerry and Edwards voted for IWR and Kerry believes that the insurgency can be defeated with mulitlateral military power.

The choices for leaders before us is bleak. On one side is Bush, the disaster, and the other is Kerry the unpalatable one.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 11:05 AM
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8. This is an incredibly well-written, well-thought-out piece.
Thanks for sharing.

I've now shared it far and wide.
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religiousleft Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:53 PM
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10. 100,000 or 15,000 or something in between: Wrong is Wrong
If we are going to avoid moral cowardice we first need to quit quibbling about numbers. One of Mr. Bush's replies to criticisms has been that removing Saddam was "worth the price". Since he hasn't paid any price he must mean that it was worth it to the parents, spouses and children of the 1000 dead and 8000 injured service-people. Our moral responsibility is to ask if it was worth it to the thousands of Iraqis and their families? How may people can you "legitimately" kill and still believe that it's for their own good?

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