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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:25 PM
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Republicans Beat Democrats inOhio Ground Game(moral vales/antigay new vote

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-ohio4nov04.story
ELECTION 2004
Republicans Beat Democrats in Ohio Ground Game
Evangelicals, citing 'moral values,' turn out in large numbers to push anti-gay marriage amendment and help Bush win the state.
By Sam Howe Verhovek And Elizabeth Shogren
Times Staff Writers

November 4, 2004

COLUMBUS, Ohio — In Ohio, it really was all about the turnout — though in ways that defied the conventional political wisdom of the Buckeye State.

A hugely motivated Republican base, driven in part by a "marriage protection" amendment to the state constitution, proved more than equal to the task of matching heavy increases in Democratic voting strength in Ohio's big cities.

The GOP's extensive mobilization delivered the state's 20 electoral votes — and the White House — to President Bush.

More than 5.7 million Ohioans showed up to vote Tuesday, many waiting patiently for hours in the rain to have their say. That is about 1 million voters more than the total participating in the 2000 presidential election.<snip>

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maxsmom Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:25 PM
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1. palast begs to differ
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:42 PM
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3. Standard suppress the city vote/ black vote - I think he is correct -but
the media does not care.....

sigh

From TP

"First and foremost, Kerry was had by chads. But the Democrat wasn't punched out by punch cards alone. There were also the 'challenges.' That's a polite word for the Republican Party of Ohio's use of an old Ku Klux Klan technique: the attempt to block thousands of voters of color at the polls. In Ohio, Wisconsin and Florida, the GOP laid plans for poll workers to ambush citizens under arcane laws—almost never used—allowing party-designated poll watchers to finger individual voters and demand they be denied a ballot. The Ohio courts were horrified and federal law prohibits targeting of voters where race is a factor in the challenge. But our Supreme Court was prepared to let Republicans stand in the voting booth door.

In the end, the challenges were not overwhelming, but they were there. Many apparently resulted in voters getting these funky "provisional" ballots—a kind of voting placebo—which may or may not be counted. Blackwell estimates there were 175,000; Democrats say 250,000. Pick your number. But as challenges were aimed at minorities, no one doubts these are, again, overwhelmingly Democratic. Count them up, add in the spoiled punch cards (easy to tally with the human eye in a recount), and the totals begin to match the exit polls; and, golly, you've got yourself a new president. Remember, Bush won by 136,483 votes in Ohio."

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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:39 PM
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2. We got beat, fair and square
There's plenty of numbers to support the Republicans' superior turnout effort in OH, both in this article and here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23754-2004Nov3.html

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Village Idiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:26 PM
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4. Why in the world
do they continue to call the dienfranchisement of Gays' rights to the point where THE CONSTITUTION has to be AMENDED - "moral values?"


WTF is so moral about DENYING RIGHTS to anyone?
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