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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:27 PM
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Onward Christian soldiers
The hopefuls in the Democrat camp really believed victory in the US election was within their grasp. How did they get it so wrong? They failed to appreciate, says Simon Schama, that their country is now in fact two nations that loathe and fear each other - Godly and Worldly America

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In the wee small hours of November 3 2004, a new country appeared on the map of the modern world: the DSA, the Divided States of America. Oh yes, I know, the obligatory pieties about "healing" have begun; not least from the lips of the noble Loser. This is music to the ears of the Victor of course, who wants nothing better than for us all to Come Together, a position otherwise known as unconditional surrender. Please, fellow curmudgeons and last ditchers, can someone on the losing side just for once not roll over and fall into a warm bath of patriotic platitudes at such moments, but toot the flute of battle instead; yell and holler and snarl just a wee bit? I don't want to heal the wound, I want to scratch the damned thing until it hurts and bleeds - and then maybe we'll have what it takes to get up from the mat. Do we think the far-right Republican candidate Barry Goldwater, in the ashy dawn of his annihilation in 1964, wanted to share? Don't think so. He wanted to win; sometime. And now, by God, he has.

"We are one nation," the newborn star of Democrats, Senator-elect Barack Obama, exclaimed, even as every salient fact of political life belied him. Well might he invoke Lincoln, for not since the Civil war has the fault line between its two halves been so glaringly clear, nor the chasm between its two cultures so starkly unbridgeable. Even territorially (with the exception of Florida, its peninsular finger pointing expectantly at tottering Cuba), the two Americas are topographically coherent and almost contiguous. One of those Americas is a perimeter, lying on the oceans or athwart the fuzzy boundary with the Canadian lakes, and is necessarily porous and outward-looking. The other America, whether montagnard or prairie, is solidly continental and landlocked, its tap roots of obstinate self-belief buried deep beneath the bluegrass and the high corn. It is time we called those two Americas something other than Republican and Democrat, for their mutual alienation and unforgiving contempt is closer to Sunni and Shia, or (in Indian terms) Muslim and Hindu. How about, then, Godly America and Worldly America?

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Worldly America is pragmatic, practical, rational and sceptical. In California it passed Proposition 71, funding embryonic stem cell research beyond the restrictions imposed by Bush's federal policy. Godly America is mythic, messianic, conversionary, given to acts of public witness, hence the need - in Utah and Montana and a handful of other states - to poll the voters on amendments to their state constitution defining marriage as a union between the opposite sexes. But then Worldly America is said to feed the carnal vanities; Godly America banishes and punishes them. From time to time Godly America will descend on the fleshpots of Worldly America, from Gotham (it had its citadel-like Convention there after all) to Californication, will shop for T-shirts, take a sniff at the local pagans and then return to base-camp more convinced than ever that a time of Redemption and Repentance must be at hand. But if the stiff-necked transgressors cannot be persuaded, they can be cowed and conquered.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/story/0,13918,1344144,00.html
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shoopnyc123 Donating Member (997 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:29 PM
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1. IDIOTS...IT WAS STOLEN...
...As a christian, it's fucked that people are going for this! THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN. Nuff said.
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:48 PM
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2. This is one of the best pieces I've read in ages!
Beautifully thought out and written. Recommended with a :kick:
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 10:03 AM
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3. I prefer, Fantasy America and Reality America. n/t
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:10 AM
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4. Kick. I love Simon Schama.
Smart as a brain pie. I loved his "History of Britain." For all his mugging, he's a helluva writer.
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 05:47 AM
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5. For once,
I'd love to hear a losing candidate give one helluva scorching concession speech.

"The voters have spoken, and in doing so they have revealed their deep, deep retardity. I've warned you about this guy. I've given you facts and logic. I've pointed to past examples and future consequences. And still you didn't listen. Good luck in the next four years; Lord knows you're gonna need all the luck in the world."
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