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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:01 PM
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Onward Christian soldiers
Guardian

The hopefuls in the Democrat camp really believed victory in the US election was within their grasp. How did they get it so wrong? They failed to appreciate, says Simon Schama, that their country is now in fact two nations that loathe and fear each other - Godly and Worldly America

Friday November 5, 2004
The Guardian

In the wee small hours of November 3 2004, a new country appeared on the map of the modern world: the DSA, the Divided States of America. Oh yes, I know, the obligatory pieties about "healing" have begun; not least from the lips of the noble Loser. This is music to the ears of the Victor of course, who wants nothing better than for us all to Come Together, a position otherwise known as unconditional surrender. Please, fellow curmudgeons and last ditchers, can someone on the losing side just for once not roll over and fall into a warm bath of patriotic platitudes at such moments, but toot the flute of battle instead; yell and holler and snarl just a wee bit? I don't want to heal the wound, I want to scratch the damned thing until it hurts and bleeds - and then maybe we'll have what it takes to get up from the mat. Do we think the far-right Republican candidate Barry Goldwater, in the ashy dawn of his annihilation in 1964, wanted to share? Don't think so. He wanted to win; sometime. And now, by God, he has.

"We are one nation," the newborn star of Democrats, Senator-elect Barack Obama, exclaimed, even as every salient fact of political life belied him. Well might he invoke Lincoln, for not since the Civil war has the fault line between its two halves been so glaringly clear, nor the chasm between its two cultures so starkly unbridgeable. Even territorially (with the exception of Florida, its peninsular finger pointing expectantly at tottering Cuba), the two Americas are topographically coherent and almost contiguous. One of those Americas is a perimeter, lying on the oceans or athwart the fuzzy boundary with the Canadian lakes, and is necessarily porous and outward-looking. The other America, whether montagnard or prairie, is solidly continental and landlocked, its tap roots of obstinate self-belief buried deep beneath the bluegrass and the high corn. It is time we called those two Americas something other than Republican and Democrat, for their mutual alienation and unforgiving contempt is closer to Sunni and Shia, or (in Indian terms) Muslim and Hindu. How about, then, Godly America and Worldly America?

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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:18 PM
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1. I certainly like 'Divided States of America', although I tend to
think of the two nations as 'faith-based' vs. 'reality-based'.
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puddycat Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:51 PM
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2. I wouldn't call those pro-* people "Godly" they are anti-God, anti-Spirit
they worship darkness in my opinion. They are so afraid of everything, especially their pockets being picked by their fellow citizens needing health care. Ironically, they are willing to have their tax $ spent on blowing up innocent countries.

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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:21 PM
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3. great post puddycat
I do agree also, these bush supporters base their beliefs around hate.
They enclose themselves in these circles and base everything around that vicious word and attribute it to their beliefs and morals
Though shall not use God's name in Vain.
Now don't get me wrong I can hate some people too but I don't base my life around it. Karma is a strong word in my book.
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