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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 04:30 PM
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TNR's Marty Peretz: IT'S JOHN KERRY, STUPID.
Edited on Tue Nov-16-04 04:32 PM by bunkerbuster1
Marty, I'd like to take this opportunity to request that you lick my dingleberries.

http://tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=20041122&s=peretz112204

Here's my favorite bitch-gossipy grafs:


I've known John Kerry for 34 years. We met in the peace movement, and I was present in 1970 when a huge convention of peaceniks rejected him as their candidate in a primary race against Philip Philbin, a Democratic hack and hawk who, through seniority, was then second in command of the House Armed Services Committee. The caucus instead nominated Father Robert Drinan, dean of Boston College Law School, who won the seat and held it for five terms, until Pope John Paul II made him resign.

Even then, no one seemed to like Kerry. (The only person I've known who really does is David Thorne, the brother of his first wife and his classmate at Yale.)
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 04:37 PM
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1. Martin Peretz is heinous.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 04:42 PM
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2. Which is why I request that he kiss my heinous.
um. sorry.

Seriously, what a whiny, small minded bitch. I've tolerated him for years, and I'll probably continue to read TNR (at least until my subscription ends) but damned if I'll re-up as long as he's their editor.

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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 04:43 PM
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3. what a coincidence...
I've never met anyone who liked Marty either. If his wife hadn't given him the mag to edit all those years, he'd be ..well, who knows what he'd be doing.

I remember him defending Freddie Barnes when Barnes was there as a responsible commentator. Barnes is a Prick.
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 04:50 PM
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4. I guess we are suppose to take this lame ass Marty fellow's word for it:
No one likes Kerry! Oh, well, thanks, Marty! Thanks for clearing that up for us! Gee, isn't it a fact of life that not everyone is going to like you? Also, tard, can you speak for the other 50 million people who voted for him as well? You complete dumbass! Go Cheney yourself, Marty!
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President Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 04:50 PM
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5. no one = 56,000,000
what a tard.

Kerry earned the nomination. Kept the party from splitting. Ran the campaign we wanted him to, which was, take the fight to GWB. Worked amazingly well in the blue states and with independents (ie sane, rational people). There were simply too many people who used the election not to vote for Kerry or Bush, but to wage their inane culture war...and the GOP exploited this significantly better than us.

When 60%+ of the electorate tells you the country is heading in the wrong direction, yet at least 10%+ vote for the incumbant, that tells you they are voting on (or more accurately, against) issues which have nothing to do with the president's competence.

Many keep saying that Kerry didn't fight Bush hard enough. That's just bullshit. But more importantly, it's moot, because the segment of Bush's coalition that put him over the top could absolutely care less about Crotch's competence. To them, our Bush blasts were like hearing someone speak Greek.

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President Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 04:54 PM
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6. at least he's consistent...he didn't donate a dime to Kerry
but he has made quite a few donations...
http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?last=Peretz&first=Martin

Edwards for Prez. I wonder how that would have turned out? He didn't even carry his county.
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Kilkenny5 Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 05:17 PM
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7. Oh come on! Enough already!
They voted for the top of the ticket not the vice presidential nominee.

As if Wesley Clark would've done better.

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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 11:22 AM
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15. Hi Kilkenny5!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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George_S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 06:17 PM
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8. bunkerbuster1 (288 posts)
Welcome to DU.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 07:56 PM
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11. back atcha, George.
This here joint is a source of much ventitude. Thanks.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 06:27 PM
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9. Who does marty peretz hang out with?..
A bunch of willfully ignorant buffoons and neo fascists?

55 fucking million of the voters who got their votes allowed for Kerry Did like him..for President even.

And I really like Kerry! Oh, that's right I haven't met peretz!
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 07:55 PM
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10. I tolerated Andrew Sullivan's anti-Clinton screeds in TNR
...and all kinds of crap from Marty Peretz, but dammit, this one has pushed me over the edge.

I'm of two minds over how, as a digital subscriber (at $50/year), I should handle this.

1) Call and demand that I be reimbursed for the remainder of my annual subscription in exchange for cancelling, unless they fire his ass; or

2) just offer my PDF downloads for free, for the asking.

Then there's always

2a) Let those fuckers THINK that I, and others like me, are giving away their precious downloadable issues for free, for the asking.

hmm.
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 09:43 PM
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12. OH, how the New Republic(an) has fallen!
I am one of those who remember when Henry Wallace edited the New Republic in the Early 50s and it was the ONLY magazine that stood up to Joe Mc Carthy and Mc Carthyism...

Mr Wallace spins in his grave seeing how this magazine has fallen in to the hands of mindless assholes like Andrew Sullivan!
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 10:52 PM
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13. "Kerry Would Have been a DANGEROUSLY BAD President."
That's what really shocked me. Credit to the man for recognizing Gore's incredible strengths. But it seems like Gore and Lieberman are the only two Democrats he likes. His irrational Kerry-hatred crosses the boundaries of civilized political discourse. This is slander:

Today, Democrats are overcome with despair. And I do not doubt that Bush's second term will have its abuses and its nastiness. But they should not delude themselves: John Kerry would not have been a good president; he might even have been a dangerously bad one. Next time, Democrats need to nominate not merely a candidate who they imagine can win but a candidate who deserves to.

Oh, and these gems:

Something demonic in Kerry persuaded him to belittle Gore whenever we met.

...

He got back into politics in 1982, with his election as Michael Dukakis's lieutenant governor, where his own unpleasantness was somewhat shielded by that of his boss.

...

:grr:

Kerry also became a member of the Intelligence Committee, whose public meetings he attended sparingly and--if one judges from his book The New War--from which he learned little about the terrorist threat that he described so murkily in the last campaign.
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:37 AM
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14. Seems like it should be slander. What he says is heresay. It's just his
opinion. Sounds like it's meant to damage Kerry's character! Damn, Kerry, slap a libel (right kind of lawsuit?) lawsuit on him!
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 01:22 PM
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17. Here I'll support Kerry, so don't have a heart attack
I don't think that Kerry'd be a dangerously bad president. Bush is the worse one in history, and Lieberman would have been as bad as Bush because he would have merged Israel's imperial interests with our own and that merger would have created a permanent rift between the USA and the Muslim world.

The New Republic is a pro-Zionist magazine. I do like some of thier articles, but I'm always on guard for their pro-Zionist bent.
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:12 PM
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16. Does anyone still read TNR?
It seems to have evolved into just a vanity press.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 01:26 PM
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18. Is this swill just in the online version?
Edited on Wed Nov-17-04 01:26 PM by CBHagman
Or do they shove this down the throats of print subscribers?

And the post-election abuse and pronouncements from Peretz really tell us all we need to know about his character, if one can use that term. At least losers, liars and courtesans like Candy Crowley and Robert Novak don't pretend to be on the side of the Democrats.

Isn't Peretz supposed to be friendly with Gore? If so, I don't know how A.G. or Tipper can stand the creature.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 10:18 PM
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19. Gee, I thought he was kinda swell myself.
What a shmuck.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 10:36 PM
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20. Oh, aneurism
Kerry underperformed? Kerry would have made a dangerous president? His book "A New War" showed how little he knew about foreign policy?

No one liked him? Really. Is that why his staff is so loyal? Is that why his brothers in arms are so loyal? Because they really can't stand the guy?

I want to write this Marty person, but I can't even see straight right now.

Who is this person and what makes him think he has a clue. Lieberman? He thinks Lieberman could have won? Yer kiddin'.

Oh, I'm livid!
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