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__Inanna__ Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 03:49 AM
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Ten Reasons Not to Move to Canada
An interesting piece on the topic. I don't blame anyone for wanting to leave (and have wondered where I could go as well), but this article does give food for thought.

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1103-28.htm

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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 03:59 AM
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1. The number one rationale for NOT moving to Canada is . . .
we are Americans. period. Shall I stuff this LTTE cartoon then? (BTW, Canada is a great country, and it has far better public policies than does America or that America will have in the foreseeable future, plus a better quality of life too!)

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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 03:59 AM
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2. I'll take the freezing temperatures
All the other times in history they noted at least had Dems in charge of Congress (either House & Senate or both).

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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 04:06 AM
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5. if my recollection is okay, I believe it was back in 1952 or so . . .
which was the last time the Dems had no toe-hold in congress and the white house together . . . that was u/ Ike as president !!
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 04:21 AM
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8. And Joseph McCarthy Was Conducting his Anti-Communist Witchhunt
Edited on Fri Nov-19-04 04:24 AM by AndyTiedye
thus destroying the lives of thousands of people who had done nothing
but criticize the Republicans.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 07:05 AM
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11. Bush is no IKE
Edited on Fri Nov-19-04 07:06 AM by fujiyama
Eisenhower was the last of what is now a dead breed of republican presidents.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 04:01 AM
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3. Barak Obama.
They gave my senator as one of the reasons to stay.

Wow!

:bounce:
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Mend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 09:28 AM
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14. If Obama had to run against Arnold the Grope
or any white, repuke candidate, who do you think would have won? I am joyful that Obama won, but I don't take any comfort when I try to consider a contest against Alan Keyes a real victory for liberalism in this country.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 03:39 PM
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15. I disagree.
Obama would have beaten Ryan, even without the sex scandal.

Many white, rural areas went overwhelmingly for Obama. He won my area about 2-1.

I don't think it is right to minimize his win, and say it is not a "real victory." He had the support even before the primary. What you say is insulting.

I think he could beat any number of white repukes.
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Mend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 04:18 PM
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16. I am insulting the
racist, homophobic, sexist voters of this country. If the people of Illinois have improved since I lived there, that is great. I do notice that now the grand total of African American senators is....one. We can do better than that.
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 04:04 AM
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4. welcome to DU, _Inanna_ . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . :hi:
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UL_Approved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 04:11 AM
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6. You can run, but you can't hide
Unbeknownst to most, Canada has similar issues as well. They have a great country now, but it needs to be maintained. We have a country on the verge of social downturn. If we leave, who will fight here? And when we have all left, and this country is damaged beyond repair, they will come for us. They will come for the world. You can't get away. You can only run or fight it.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 04:13 AM
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7. No mention of HeyHey?
Hey!
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 04:32 AM
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9. Not good enough reasons!
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 05:56 AM
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10. I think it would be better to move where it's warmer
what with peak oil and all...heating might be a SLIGHT problem....
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 07:16 AM
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12. Why move when we can secede?
I'm in California and I'm ready for secession.

I want a divorce from President Asshole and the Parliament of Whores!
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 07:46 AM
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13. Uuummmm, secede? Secede, you say?

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northamericancitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 09:06 PM
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17. Stay and keep on fighthing
here is a copy I sent to DU nov.9th. At the time the traffic was so high that newbies couldn't register.

November 9th 2004,

I am a french- canadian in Québec city. I see myself as a citizen of the world who has a powerfull and (so far) friendly neighbour.
I am horrified to see where the bush co is going and what he has done to all of you. I want to get involved in a more direct way. So far with info from your site I was able to alert the CBC and SRC (french side of CBC). I also sent links about the stolen election to investigating journalist asking them to dig.

snip

At this point in time I don't think I will adopt a lefty. The USA needs all the liberal thinkers to stay and fight.
If ever it gets too dangerous for you guys to stay and fight from within, you will be more then welcome to live with us and we will be right beside you to defend the basics rights of all human beings.

You have my respect and admiration for your courage and hard work to keep democracy alive. The same goes to your fellow moderators, bloggers, and all the activists pitching in.

Lise Poirier
Québec city
Canada
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 03:00 AM
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21. You can't fight when the Nazi Party has mutated America into Jesusland!
So that's why I am going to work to secede California from Jesusland.

You cannot save a house where the termites have eroded the foundation. You have to leave and build a new house.

Jesusland has passed the point of no return, it cannot be saved. It's time to realize that, cut the losses and go. Jesusland does not want California, so fuck those ignorant KKKristians. Let's go!
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dreamcollector Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 09:44 PM
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18. If the draft comes
You will be wise to leave in droves. Huge numbers of Canadians will be willing to take you in. We have a petition going now to persuade our government to let draft dodgers stay here. I don't know how any ethical human being can fight in that completely immoral war. It's difficult not to be wholeheartedly on the side of the Iraqis and if it gets much worse Osama Bin Laden will start to look like Robin Hood. I don't think Americans can begin to understand how people outside your country view Bush's invasion of Iraq. 911 is starting to look like peanuts compared to the horrors you are inflicting on the inhabitants of that poor country. I don't know how intelligent people can rationalize that war. I hope Kerry will get you out of there PDQ if he gets in. Why do the pundits say that Muslims are turning against the U.S? It's not only the Muslims, folks, it's the whole damned world!
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__Inanna__ Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 11:52 PM
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19. Thanks all for your comments
but particularly to dreamcollector, the more info you can give us, the better. We aren't getting it from the mainstream media here. I'd also be interested in your opinions regarding 911 and any complicity by our government therein. Thanks.
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:51 AM
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20. Amen! But, you can't tell the Freeptards or the sheeple this at all!
They have this warped idea that we are totally invincible and that we can kick anyone's ass! I really wish sometimes that someone would invade us, just to get rid of these PNACer asshats in our government, for the sake of world peace!!!
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 01:03 AM
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22. #11 reason not to move to Canada
Ralph Klein
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 01:51 PM
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23. De Mint and Coburn make Klein look like Paul Wellstone!
I can live with Klein. I cannot live with trash like Coburn and De Mint!
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