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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 04:50 PM
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Proof that Americans were also involved in 9/11
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/112004Schwarz/112004schwarz.html

Sibel D. Edmonds was one of the many multilingual translators hired by our FBI to help track down terrorists and anticipate their next moves. At least, that was the plan and the purported "job description."

Once Sibel was working inside the FBI she uncovered something, tried to go public with it when Attorney General John Ashcroft and her FBI superiors would not, and the Bush-Cheney-Ashcroft team slapped a gag order on her so you could not hear what this lady has to say. What she has to say directly relates to 9-11 and it totally disputes the Bush Mythology they want Americans to believe.

So listen up, America. Here is what Sibel uncovered–she found "drug trafficking, money laundering, foreign names and American names directly involved in the financing of the 9-11 attacks on WTC (World Trade Center) and the Pentagon." It was not the Saudis, folks. Americans were involved and Bush does not want you to know that. That exposes the Bush Mythology as the lie that it is.

Some of the names on our list are also on the list that Sibel Edmonds knows and found inside the FBI. We came at the problem through telecom fraud, international securities fraud and kept finding trails that led to the Caspian Basin, Pakistan, and former BCCI (Bank of Credit and Commerce) scam artists. Some of you might remember BCCI and that many called it Bank of Crooks and Criminals International and did so for good cause.

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Could this be why Washington D.C. is paralyzed and not jumping on the vote fraud????????????? I wonder.

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Consider this:

Karl W. B. Schwarz" <kw.schwarz@worldnet.att.net> View Contact Details
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Subject: FW: COULD BE IMPORTANT
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:42:10 -0600




-----Original Message-----
From: Karl W. B. Schwarz
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 10:24 AM
To: Deborah Simon
Subject: FW: COULD BE IMPORTANT



To All:

When involved in a Truth Movement like 9-11 has become, there are facts
surface, trails die or dead end. Some times certain pieces of the
"visual
trail" like the many photos of 9-11 get modified by someone, for some
purpose. I recently read where one group is claiming the second plane
that
hit the South Tower of WTC was a hologram, non-existent. The building
was
wired to blow up.

I dismissed that for one simple reason - I know many people in NYC due
to my
12 years experience with three key Wall Street firms. Some of them saw
the
second plane coming down the Hudson and banking into WTC II and it was
no
hologram.

The reason I am sending this as forwarded to many parties is to show
that
sometimes, simple things that happened long ago might point towards the
truth many of us seek regarding 9-11.

Some times, plans are laid and left "unhatched" until someone wants
them to
hatch.

That person or persons are the ones we all want to see hang for treason
against this nation and all of us.

I am giving the author below the benefit of the doubt because I have
been to
WTC many times since 1988 and I too have noticed things that seemed
rather
"anal", unduly hostile, made no sense at the time.

This is for the "truth archives" and time will tell if economics and
other
planners killed 3,000 people on 9-11.

regards,

Karl



-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Shytle
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:42 AM
To: Karl W. B. Schwarz
Subject: COULD BE IMPORTANT


Comment
From Tom Gordon
Systems Engineer
11-19-4

World Trade Center 'Bombing,'

An Unwitting Participant Asks; "WHY?"

_____________

In 1988, I moved to NYC., seeking architectural photography assignments
from
various key architects. Before moving there, I asked for help from my
prior
clients in Denver. One good friend and close ally, Herb Roth, suggested
I
contact his friends at "Emery-Roth Architects," (No
relation) After the usual portfolio review and pricing discussions,
Barry
Roth, AIA, asked me to cover the "World Trade Center." This assignment,
I
thought, would be one of the greatest opportunities of my career!

It was widely known that "Ezra Stoller and Associates" and "Norman
McGrath"
had laboriously photographed the World Trade Center for a period of
over one
year. They created some of the finest known images of the towers, the
most
memorable ones are at twilight, with the Statue of
Liberty in the foreground. They informed me that Ezra had actually
photographed it routinely for something like 6 years.

I was allowed to analyze the firm's existing 'photo files' before I
began my
coverage. I asked a lot of questions which is how I learned most of the
background information I'm about to cover. The 'librarian' at Emery's
offices was actually the main corporate secretary, who's demeanor was
more
like someone you would expect to work under at the Metropolitan
Museum, -totally reserved and humorless. This was my first challenge,
and
frankly a cause for alarm.

Not long after the buildings were built, the WTC owners retained the
architect of record, and their photographer, and several principal
engineers
from the original consulting firm- "to establish the safety of the twin
towers." Each of their staff members worked on this project on
a 'full-time' contract basis, most of them for a period of about 10
years.
By 1989, it was very late in the process, but there were still about 15
current participants involved in all. (I found all these 'facts' to be
highly unusual, but perhaps simply beyond my 10+ years
experience-level.)

My assignment was to: "apply my Julius Schulman -technique," to
photograph
both of the towers in their contextual situation. "Not just the
buildings,
but especially how they 'fit' with the neighborhood.

After a month and a half, I had exhausted my interest in the street
vantage-points, so I decided to go up in the towers early one morning,
to
see which adjacent rooftops could offer the most suitable additional
views.
It was still too cold to shoot those views. This was between May
9th and May 13, 1989.

Carrying just my light-weight 35mm gear, I was singled-out from the
regular
building patrons by the lobby guards, which totally surprised me. I
explained the nature of my business with a moderate degree of
assurance, but
was shocked when they reacted as though I had been expected, very
matter-of-factly!. One of them phoned upstairs, while another insisted
he
was sending a guard with me, "to insure that I would arrive at the
engineering office in time for our meeting." The suite was labeled:
Skilling
& Jackson, P.C.. -whom I had knowledge of, but no
prior relations with.

Had this been the leasing office, I would have understood the mix-up
perfectly. Clearly, this was NOT a situation that could pertain to me
in any
way. I was not aware that Roth had an office in the building at all,
but,
like a true 'rookie,' I was feeling keen to discuss my abilities
with their 'big guns,' since any contact with such people here could
have
lead me to major future assignments!

When we arrived at the door to this suite, I was 'very shocked' to see
the
actual sign on their 'main office door.' The door and jamb itself were
of
completly service-grade materials, like an ordinary 'back door' at any
other
suite. The sign was brand new and simply said: Skilling
Associates, P.C.. (This was a small engraved laminated sign from an
ordinary
office supply store.) I thought to myself: Humm, these people have been
here
over 10 years?

"Everyone sit down and be quiet." "Who's this?," the orator said
loudly,
starring at me. I said: "I 'm the official photographer from Roth."

{...like who are you and what's it to you buddy, haven't you heard of
me? }

Unflinching, somber and businesslike, he said without drawing a breath:

Then, you are to be included, who sent you here?

I said; "Barry Roth- I just got a message from his secretary."

(Which was almost completely true, but she hadn't called about this, to
my knowledge! )

He nodded and addressed the full group, then reading from a 4x5
file-card,
acknowledged some absentee members and confirmed their knowledge and
prior
'agreements of compliance.' He said to the few of us in this special
group:

"Listen carefully, nobody gets out of this!"

"Each of you were called here to sign an affidavit of non-disclosure.
None
of the information from our project can find it's way into the
public-eye.
Absolutely nothing that we have learned from this project can be
revealed to
the public because it is potentially damaging to our
client. Some of you have enjoyed 10 years of service on this project
for our
client. Each of the team leaders have recently received raises and
additional benefits. { someone } -has already received a new assignment
and
he will be getting a healthy raise at his new location, {undisclosed}."

"I know this transition will take you by surprise, but there was no
other
way to handle it. You are all terminated from this project effective
immediately! This means you need to clear your desks and surrender all
of
your files by the end of the day.

I will assist you in getting these papers into the archive cabinets so
we
can give them to the owners for safekeeping."

"After you have signed these forms, we will have a short recess. You
may go
to the Cafe, or to 'Windows' for lunch, but don't leave the buildings!
I
want you all to know that I am sad to have to break this news. Your
work
will not go unnoticed, each of you has provided an invaluable service
and we
are all grateful. Do not think that this action shows any reflection on
the
exceptional quality of your individual work!"

This was like a military operation, yet no one in the room knew I
didn't
work for their firm!

So, we went to "lunch," at around 10:15am. where I was able to visit
with 3,
or 4 of the lesser engineers, without oversight from their 'head
honchos.' I
played it really cool considering my total ignorance. Each of them were
furious. I said things like -"Shame we have to dis-band, I
was looking forward to being here for at least a few months." "What do
you
suppose we've done wrong?" ...Each in turn revealed:

"The fact is, we all know that the buildings can't stand safely for
over 40
to 60 years. It's not the sub-soil, that's granite. They must have
received
the completed demolition report, which we all knew to expect. It was
supposed to be finished months ago. Clearly it looks bad. Well,
I'm sure we all know the real implication- that the owners can't get
their
money back. That's what we all learned today. -Thanks _X_, f*** you!"

I asked: -"Why, what do you mean?"

It will cost $____ Billion to erect the two scaffolds to surround both
buildings, that's the only known way to take these baby's down. We'll
literally have to re-build them, then un-build them, twice! Now it's
obvious, bottom-line is that the developer will have to sell them soon,
or
take a serious bath. (I forget the actual figure)

-"Why are they worried now? They still seem really stable
architecturally."

They are much too big. It's a piece-by-piece problem. They simply can't
be
imploded, we know of no other way. Why do you think they hired me for
10
years to find other solutions? I'm not a structural specialist, just an
architect!

- "I thought Barry said you guys were about to find a solution."

(I could see that was the wrong thing to say.) A slight look of concern
spread over their faces, until I said-"What's a few more Flying
Buttresses
going to cost?" It was a lame jab, but they bought it and everyone
relaxed
as I pretended to be contemplating my next job interview.

I learned that 'none of them were allowed to be holding other jobs,' as
long
as they held these 'titles,' a contract-stipulation had occurred at
least 4
years prior. They all griped about the "pathetic" lunch; "This is
horrible,
I can't eat here!" No one was very relaxed. The more I
learned, the more scared I was as I listened for more fascinating
inside
news.

-Finally, pushing my luck, I prodded again: "So tell me about the
electrolytic issues."

Everyone went quiet, but realised they were in deep. They began a
patent
narritive which was clearly not about to go anywhere, since I think
they
knew that I knew as much as each of them about the composition and
arrangements of these metals. I had effectively blown my cover.

Suddenly, just short of our hour, a man came to escort us back to their
desks which had been mostly riffled through, or completely boxed and
removed.

"Again, son, tell me who you are?" -One of the senior associates asked.
"You guys walk ahead, he said, using firm body-lauguage to physically
indicate that he would be in a position to restrain me at any time.

"I'm T.S. Gordon the official photographer. They were tired of paying
Stoller." "Who's Stoller, I only know of McGrath?" "Are you saying you
are
not with Mr. McGrath's firm?"

I said; "Ezra Stoller, the world's greatest at shooting tall buildings.
Haven't you seen all the great shots up at Emery Roth? McGrath has shot
what, 6 or 8 great photos in 4 years!," (-I sarcastically mused, until
I
began to feel that he might arrest me. By the way, Norman's shot's were
great too, but I felt I had to assert a strong opinion.)

"You go by; Tom, Thomas, or T.S.?" -He asked, looking again at my
drivers
license.

"TS- I was called in to cover the site, not just the buildings. I
didn't
even need to come in here again for my assignment!" - I said, carefully
back-stepping, like I could find my way to the elevator. He grabbed my
arm
and we proceeded rapidly through the corridors behind the others.
"No, you were called in because everyone had to sign off on their part
in
this entire assignment. You say you work for Barry__ who?"

I responded with the proper name and added, "He's the one that cuts my
checks and I give him ALL the film." (An exaggeration, but I knew
Barry was
a former project manager and he would be at lunch if they tried to
call.)

"You are not to tell anyone about your employment here, ever!" -he
said.

"Wait here by the window, all of you with outside affiliations." A
couple of
guys took their seats by the North window, but I was nervous and I
stood
with my back to them as I starred down on the un-finished looking
iron-work
of building #7, which had just been 'topped-out' with a ceremony the
day
before.

"What are you studying?" someone asked. "I can't believe that building
is so
tall and skinny," and I really couldn't. ( I had toured #7, so I was
quite
curious about this viewing angle.) He stood up, evidently really angry,
and
said quite unpleasantly; "Yeah good old #7, the building that never
should
have been built!"

The room went silent. His tone was immediately received as a threat by
the
boss. He separated the three of us and called my contact at Emery-Roth
who
then acknowledged that I was hired to shoot the building. Neither
discussed
any details, so I was off the hook in a way. He dismissed me and said I
was
not to talk to any of the other participants on the way out, not ever
again.
An armed guard escorted me down to the street.

Within a few days I called Ezra Stoller, in White Plains, who, speaking
about WTC, innocently revealed that he; "Wasn't allowed to shoot any
more
pictures of it." That was a very funny thing to hear him say. No one
ever
"doesn't allow" a photographer to get a better shot. I didn't
say what had happened to me, only that it was very exciting for me to
get to
follow in his shoes. I thanked him for the friendly phone visit and
promised
to show him the prints if I got any really great shots. He was very
polite
and understood my admiration.

_____________

Based on a true life experience I had at the World Trade Center, I
offer
this document now, to those who may be searching for " key potential
motives" behind the actions that led to the 9/11 attacks. I do not
intend to
imply that any of the parties that I will mention here were directly
involved in the coordinated effort to destroy the building.

However, it is clearer to me, over time, that this information would
have
provided a pre-eminent, and utterly untraceable 'blue-print' to the
group
that finally engineered the 9/11 attack.

This document was originally released in 2003, and was ammended for
accuracy, on: 1/18/2004.

This information is entirely true and this is its first public release.
My
explanation does not intend to add substantially in any way to the
factual
information that is contained in the actual documentation that I have
described.-TSG


Supporting Facts, Assumptions and Curious Questions:

I would speculate that in 1989 through 1993, as the downtown real
estate
market was falling, there were perhaps reasons to suspect that the WTC
owners might have contemplated the first bombing. After Battery Park
attracted their biggest tenants, the property quickly lost it's
viability. (At the time, Geoff Parker reported that a friend of his was
given a whole floor in the South tower to use as a drumming studio, for
free!) By 1996, the internet had decentralized the financial industry,
further diminishing the lease/return opportunities of this property. (
I
don't know the actual math, maybe it was going up again.)

The building cost about $1.5B to build and was worth about $4. to 5.B
at its
peak. But, it would have cost about $20B to un-build it in 2010
dollars, or
as it neared its 1/2 'safe' life. Obviously it HAD to be imploded and
there
was never going to be a 'break-even' point for the
owners.

The first attempted attack was evidently planned to kill all of us, or
at
least scatter the group's paperwork. Building #7 was actually a
protective
scaffold, designed to catch the debris as the North building fell. Why
did
they plan it so only this building would fall, particularly northward?
Would
they receive the insurance then appeal for a government bail-out to
de-construct the main tower, sometime later?

Minoru Yamasaki was working for the Saudi's when he took on this
project.
After its completion in 1973, he returned to Saudi Arabia to consult on
other projects. Eventually, in 1986, he did the Saudi Financial Center.
Noteworthy, if I remember, because of its triangular super-rigid
looking
tower, also attributed to S.O.M. In interviews he appears to be a
gracious
and spiritually honest man. We certainly felt his pain when he was
interviewed on TV.

Minoru befriended Richard Roth Sr., while working for Brown & Root in
Chicago. Roth was noted for his contribution on the "Columbia
Exposition"
Project. They shared many arts & crafts stylistic attitudes. Richard
Roth
Jr. was in charge of his dad's firm when he retired. He is friends with
lots
of conservatives. (Carnegie Mellon group, like his dad.) He is friends
with
Saul Steinberg, Stephen Roth, Jeffrey Levine, lots of famous Jewish
folks
with dubious Israeli connections.

When the building was sold to Silversteen, Stephen Roth, (with Vernado
Realty) worked to take the bid as high as possible, offering $750,M
more
than the next lower bidder. Did he even have the money? Two months
before
the official auction, he withdrew the ridiculous bid. Could this
have been a mistake on his part?

Isn't this the same Stephen Roth who runs the "Anti-defamation League"
in
Israel. They track all persons who threaten the sovereignty of Israel.
Interestingly enough it was established in 1991! Suddenly, after that,
there
were lots of reported 'neo-nazi' groups springing up in Germany and the
UK.
His group gave rise to the importance of stopping these 'Right- wing
terrorists' at all costs, and he may serve as the eyes and ears for the
CIA,
or Massoud. Either way, he's got to be an insider with Sharon.

Tom-Scott Gordon
Architectural Photographer/currently A/V Systems Integrator
penmanchip@hotmail.com



Comment
From Tom-Scott Gordon
1-19-4

Hi Jeff -

You may remember the transcript that I sent you about a pre-existing
'demolition plan' for the Twin Trade Towers. I have been actively
pursuing
the development of that set of documents into a 'corroborated' story. I
have
received help from Michael @ From the Wilderness and Jeff King, another
important 9-11 cover-up researcher. I think you should have one of them
on
your program immediately!

I would like for you to 'add this comment' to the end of your story,
something that I believe to be just as important as Mr. Silverstein's
'smoking gun,' -itself. This appears in the context of my tedious
narrative,
and in some ways 'certifies,' these events. I will highlight the quote
now,
but my full story will not be ready to send to the commission for days.

It's more than a smoking gun. In my 25+ years exposure to all sorts of
architects, I have never heard such a damaging comment as the one I'm
about
to tell you. Not to the design process, the people, nor the conflicts
involved in achieving our profession's crowning achievements. It was
like
seeing a mother with her newborn child, as she quietly ends it's
precious
life!

"There I was, fantastically excited to be looking down on the steel
framing,
as Building #7 was finally 'topped out.' To my right, stood one of the
project architects, who said; (then turned, and left the room without
looking any of us in the eye): "Building seven. -The building that
never
should have been built."

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and this:

-----Original Message-----
From: Karl W. B. Schwarz
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:12 AM
To: Deborah Simon
Subject: Debriefing of meeting today with Spitzer's Senior Assistant


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Hello Concerned Americans,

Several key documents were delivered Wednesday, November 17, 2004 by one of my associates / friends to the Senior Assistant to Eliot Spitzer, Attorney General of the State of New York. Some readers may not recognize that name but Mr. Spitzer is the person responsible for levying several billion in fines against Wall Street firms for a wide variety of financial scams put forth on all Americans but he focused appropriately on what was done to citizens of New York and the Pension Fund of New York state employees.

Since 9-11 was in part conducted upon the State of New York, criminal prosecution against appropriate parties is properly sited for venue and jurisdiction of such an investigation, a Grand Jury, and prosecution of the parties involved, some of which you will learn about as you read on.

A friend of mine from Connecticut went to Spitzer's office to hand deliver the materials and a separate package arrived from Europe by overnight courier. We are not disclosing yet the names, companies, extent of the information provided for that would tip off where some of the information came from and possibly endanger those persons. Suffice to say, a blind man could follow the trail now that they know where to start, and where the trails end.

She delivered the following items:

First, a full and complete copy of the Demand Letter I sent to Bush, Kerry and DNC around 1 PM, September 30, 2004 demanding answers from Bush on 30 items that are glaring lies and cover ups of his Administration. That document can be seen at the following link if any of you missed that Demand Letter:

http://www.911citizenswatch.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=406

The state democratic parties of every swing state also got the demand letter. That it was never used by the Democrats to discredit Bush should tell you much as to the fallacy of this year's presidential election.

Secondly, we delivered a letter by Sibel D. Edmonds, FBI translator that was co-signed by 24 other former federal employees from CIA, DIA, FBI, DoD and other agencies of the United States government. That letter was dated September 13, 2004 and represents a critique of the 9-11 Commission "Omissions Report" that has been so glowingly written up in the lame media as a work of art by that commission. Well, I have to agree - the 9-11 Commission Report is a "work of art" of a cover up and an excellent fiction read for any of you that missed it.

I have made it clear in other writings that 8 of the 10 commissioners have so many conflicts of interests, their appointment to the 9-11 Commissioner is clearly to be directors of a cover up.

This is copied and pasted from the Sibel Edmonds letter and note who signed it and who received copies of it.

Respectfully,



1. Costello, Edward J. Jr., Former Special Agent, Counterintelligence, FBI

2. Cole, John M., Former Veteran Intelligence Operations Specialist, FBI

3. Conrad, David “Mark”, Retired Agent in Charge, Internal Affairs, U.S. Customs

4. Dew, Rosemary N., Former Supervisory Special Agent, Counterterrorism & Counterintelligence, FBI

5. Dzakovic, Bogdan, Former Red Team Leader, FAA

6. Edmonds, Sibel D., Former Language Specialist, FBI

7. Elson, Steve, Retired Navy Seal & Former Special Agent, FAA & US Navy

8. Forbes, David, Aviation, Logistics and Govt. Security Analysts, BoydForbes, Inc.,

9. Goodman, Melvin A., Former Senior Analyst/ Division Manager, CIA; Senior Fellow at the Center for International Policy

10. Graf, Mark, Former Security Supervisor, Planner, & Derivative Classifier, Department of Energy

11. Graham, Gilbert M., Retired Special Agent, Counterintelligence, FBI

12. Kleiman, Diane, Former Special Agent, US Customs

13. Kwiatkowski, Karen U., Lt. Col. USAF (ret.), Veteran Policy Analyst-DoD

14. Larkin, Lynne A., Former Operation Officer, CIA

15. MacMichael, David, Former Senior Estimates Officer, CIA

16. McGovern, Raymond L., Former Analyst, CIA

17. Pahle, Theodore J., Retired Senior Intelligence Officer, DIA

18. Sarshar, Behrooz, Retired Language Specialist, FBI

19. Sullivan, Brian F., Retired Special Agent & Risk Management Specialist, FAA

20. Tortorich, Larry J., Retired US Naval Officer, US Navy & Dept. of Homeland Security/TSA

21. Turner, Jane A., Retired Special Agent, FBI

22. Vincent, John B., Retired Special Agent, Counterterrorism, FBI

23. Whitehurst, Dr. Fred, Retired Supervisory Special Agent/Laboratory Forensic Examiner, FBI

24. Wright, Ann, Col. US Army (ret.); and Former Foreign Service officer

25. Zipoli, Matthew J., Special Response Team (SRT) Officer, DOE







CC:

Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, Chairman Pat Roberts & Vice Chairman John D. Rockefeller

Senate Committee on the Judiciary, Chairman Orrin G. Hatch & Ranking Democratic Member Patrick Leahy

Senate Committee on Armed Services, Chairman John Warner & Ranking Member Carl Levin

Senate Committee on Governmental Affairs, Chairman Susan Collins & Ranking Member Joseph Lieberman

House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, Chairman Porter J. Goss & Ranking Member Jane Harman

House Committee on the Judiciary, Chairman F. James Sensenbrenner, Jr. & Ranking Member John Conyers

House Armed Services Committee, Chairman Duncan Hunter & Ranking Member Ike Skelton

House Committee on Government Reform, Chairman Tom Davis & Ranking Member Henry A. Waxman

House Select Committee on Homeland Security, Chairman Christopher Cox & Ranking Member Jim Turner

Senator Charles Grassley



For the record, Congress has not made a single move to address the foregoing.



From our side, there are over 200 such persons willing to tell all before a Grand Jury or any subsequent prosecution trials.



Sibel and Karen Kwiatkowski are both cited in my book, One-Way Ticket to Crawford, Texas, a Conservative Republican Speaks Out. Available at www.karlschwarz.com. If you want your friends to be "smarter Americans" this is an ideal Christmas gift for anyone that is trying to come to grips with what is being done to this nation, by whom and how they are doing it.

The Inspector General has written a report that is negative of Bush, Ashcroft, et al and in usual Bushian arrogance, that IG report has been classified. A watered-down unclassified report was due out before the elections and it is still not available.

While Sibel has focused on justice on her front, and many of us that receive this email are engaged on other fronts, Sibel continues to seek that the gag order be lifted against her so Americans can know exactly what foreign and American names were uncovered by her in the financing of 9-11. If any of you readers will, contact your elected representatives in DC and also demand that the gag order be lifted and those names disclosed to the public.

A complete copy of the letter sent by Sibel and 24 other former federal agents and employees is attached for your review.

Third, from Germany an overnight package was delivered today from a German attorney to Spitzer's office. He appears to have uncovered an insurance scam involving the WTC towers where in June or July of 2001 the insurance was increased by at least 300% and the beneficiaries of those additional insurance payments are 1.) major American names; and 2.) directly tied to the Bush Administration and New World Order proponents; and 3.) are apparently US firms not involved in US intelligence and had foreknowledge of 9-11 happening. No one is lucky enough to have over $3 billion happen less than 90 days after those riders were added to the insurance of WTC.

Mr. Spitzer's office is currently investigating the insurance industry and scams and was unaware of the information we just secured for his review and this one directly involves 9-11 and the attack on WTC.

Fourth, out of Canada I have been provided information that could explain the technology sources that made 9-11 possible, including a company that was doing business with the State of New York in a service area that would have made it easy to have installed a ground station in or around WTC to where flying planes remotely as UAV could be done easily.

This company is owned by a Bush Pioneer and a Canadian firm that has major US investors that are directly tied to either GHWB or GWB.

Our sources indicate that such a ground station and antennas might have been in WTC 7 and the reason that building was destroyed .

Fifth, also out of Canada I have been provided information on the software that is used in Red Team Canada and Blue Team USA war games and again, that software could easily explain how NORAD thought it was just a drill and all USAF units were in stand down mode while those planes were allowed through to their intended targets. That would have required that someone in the US let it happen and knew it was going to happen to have coordinated that with the attack.

This company is owned by a Bush Pioneer and a Canadian firm that has major US investors that are directly tied to either GHWB or GWB.

Sixth, out of the U.S. a party has come forth with information that there was a $120 billion deal that was to have closed on 9-11 or 9-12-2001 in WTC and that deal was apparently a debt that did not get paid due to 9-11. How fortunate for someone.

We provided Mr. Spitzer with the routing codes and bank officer names of the parties that were to receive that payment and did not receive it. Figuring out exactly who was on the other side of that deal is just a matter of time. We already know some of the names and they are high level American names.

Seventh, that same $120 billion deal is a derivative of a bogus operation being run out of the Philippines by Americans in falsified Gold Collateral US Debt Certificates. There is a new book to add to your reading list in addition to mine - Confessions of an Economic Hit Man by Paul Johnson, an NSA recruit that was put into a private company to engineer the financial undermining of poorer nations so certain US parties could take away their natural resources and economic assets. What a country! We are being run by charlatans, thieves and scumbags.

Mr. Johnson and myself spoke Tuesday and compared notes on the methodologies of how Brady Bonds are structured into economic blunt instruments to steal from smaller nations. That conversation is consistent with what we just handed to Mr. Spitzer regarding the aborted 9-11-2001 payment that was due from someone and our sources indicate that the payment was due from Americans. The transaction was a complete fraud so the "borrowed funds" based on "bogus collateral certificates" is something that will be under investigation as of today. Multiple foreign banks took major hits and this Bush Administration apparently has protected those parties from justice. We all want to know why and so should Eliot Spitzer.

The 9-11-2001 deal was Brady Bonds and bogus Gold Collateral Certificates according to our source and $120 billion was due and payable.

Eighth, shortly before 9-11, a Mary Bush and Marvin Bush were moving stock including stock options, stock, and the insurance on WTC. EdgarOnline.com has that information for interested parties.

I have upcoming articles that you can see over the coming weeks at either www.OnlineJournal.com or www.usa.mediamonitors.net titled:

A Conservative Christian Republican says:

Listen to Sibel D. Edmonds, FBI Translator

A Conservative Christian Republican says:

Part I - Pop goes the Bush Mythology Bubble



A Conservative Christian Republican says:

Part II - Pop goes the Bush Mythology Bubble



A Conservative Christian Republican says:

Part III - Pop goes the Bush Mythology Bubble



The 9-11 Commission Report is an Embarrassment to America

Shame on the 8 of 10 Sell Out Artist Commissioners



Public Enemy Number 1: Dominionist Christian Fascists




Since all of us took a financial hit due to 9-11, I am one of the 9-11 truth movement proponents that believes and has been recommending that the "final judgment" of any court trying this matter should also include financial restitution to all Americans and others harmed by what is growing more apparent each day was "an inside job".

The information we delivered to Eliot Spitzer's office is An American Issue and both sides of the aisle in Washington, DC are implicated. If you are a Democrat and feel abandoned by the DNC and DLC, you have been. For people on my side of the aisle that believe in Christianity as a religion of peace and tolerance and as a Conservative, we have been sold out by those in power in DC now in my party. Regardless of party or religion - any of us that is not part of that elite insider group in DC has been sold out.

For people of all parties, all religions, all races, the fate of America rests with us, The Silent Majority.

Put your elected Congressional leaders for your state on notice that you too demand The Truth and demand justice for 9-11 and all responsible parties be held accountable under the laws of this Nation.

Let Eliot Spitzer's office know through his office email form that America is standing up behind him on this matter. Just a simple request "Please investigate and prosecute those responsible for 9-11". http://www.oag.state.ny.us/online_forms/email_ag.jsp

Let your local or national media sources know that they can start fulfilling the proper role of the Fourth Estate, print the truth, air the truth, or lose your business as a subscriber, listener or viewer.

Let your friends and neighbors, your work associates read this email too. The fate of all of us is on the line and we have a national government that has sold all of us out to their wealthy contributors.

Look around you and remember what made this nation great. It was not them, it was generations of "US" that made this nation great. Look at the leaders and the media and grasp why they lie to you, to me, to all we love.

Remember - you are an American first and right now this nation needs The Silent Majority to stand up for the country we love - more than ever before in US history.

Lastly, notice that I have not included the major media in on this email. They have a surprise coming and best we let that surprise be just that - a surprise. They deserve to be exposed as the liars and charlatans they are for what they have helped cover up.

God bless America and all of us. We are going to need all of the help we can muster on Earth and in Heaven.

best regards,

Patmos Nanotechnologies, LLC

Karl W. B. Schwarz
President, Chief Executive Officer

(501) 663-4959, US Central Time Zone, GMT -6 hrs




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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:05 PM
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1. interesting,
read about half of it, will check out the rest later. thanks.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:16 PM
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2. If the lines that connect the dots turn out to be solid...
Do you really think anything will happen?

Even if this is 100% true, the breadth and scope of complicity will keep this running in circles for decades.

If it is true, these fuckers will burn in hell even if this never sees the light of day. That's why I find it most interesting that those who do things like this live unhealthy lives.
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:33 PM
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3. If we just had ONE major news network!
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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:36 PM
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4. HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOW....first of all, let me state, that never, in my wildest dreams or delusions ever think that 911 could of been perpetrated by insiders who wanted/needed the towers to fall, claim the insurance, and blame foreign terrorists to do the deed. NEVER thought of that one - so hats off to the media, and the Bush administration for so effectively pulling the wool over our eyes...and continueing to do so by keeping all our attention on Iraq and Afghanistan. (If I read this correctly)

I am stunned. And the horror is only compounded by what has happened since then. There is no word to describe my feelings to this - criminal is not bad enough, crimes against humanity is not bad enough - this is without a doubt the WORST baddest, most evil cabal ever......
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ricfl Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 06:18 PM
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29. So rigging the election was nothing
compared to this.
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NJ_Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:45 PM
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5. Dare I consider this?


If I thought I was in meltdown mode before, I can only imagine what will happen to me if I actually consider for a second, that this could be true...

OH. MY. GOD.
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:50 PM
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6. Here is the source for release, much easier on the eyes.
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indigo11153 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 07:09 PM
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7. I'll check this site out
I just can't trust the online Journal. Not a credible source IMO.
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 07:29 PM
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9. Indigo, could you please post more info
on why you consider OnlineJournal not to be a credible source? I'm not trying to be snarky, here. It's one of the sites that I read fairly regularly. Doesn't seem that way to me. :shrug: thanks.
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indigo11153 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 01:54 AM
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18. They did a story
That I was very close to and I knew the truth and they didn't tell it. That's why I say that. I don't find them very objective. Very one sided.
They don't seem to check out their writers very well or fact check their stories.
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 11:37 AM
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23. Thanks for the reply. I'll look
at that site more critically from now on. :-)
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teach1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 07:11 PM
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8. Reading it now and I have a question
Edited on Sat Nov-20-04 07:12 PM by teach1st
Forgive me if I've missed the answer. If what the article says is true and if Sibel Edmonds does hold a great deal of relevant information, wouldn't she have been taken care of by now? It seems to me that people who have taken out that many innocents for those reasons wouldn't have any problem taking out the one or two people whom might hold a piece of the exposure key?
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Niccolo_Macchiavelli Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 08:05 PM
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10. Screw the gag order
you owe this traitors to humanity nothing!

If theres info it should be shared that the torch is reached on before she's eliminated.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 08:12 PM
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11. This is just almost too frightening to really think about. Killing all
those people over an insurance scam?

But then I guess I've seen an even worse scam since that day, it's called Operation Enduring Freedom.

Geez, this will give me something to think about for a day or twenty.

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lindashaw Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 09:19 PM
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12. I'm having trouble with the Fourth point:
Quoting post: Fourth, out of Canada I have been provided information that could explain the technology sources that made 9-11 possible, including a company that was doing business with the State of New York in a service area that would have made it easy to have installed a ground station in or around WTC to where flying planes remotely as UAV could be done easily.

This company is owned by a Bush Pioneer and a Canadian firm that has major US investors that are directly tied to either GHWB or GWB.

Our sources indicate that such a ground station and antennas might have been in WTC 7 and the reason that building was destroyed . End quote.

I know that this remote-control technology exists and has been talked since 9/11 in case of hi-jacked planes...But real planes did strike the towers (real people died)even if the verdict is still out about the Pentagon. So, is it now being posited that hi-jackers got on those planes and then the planes were taken over at some point by a remote control? I'm confused...




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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 09:30 PM
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14. Yes, that is a bit overly-colorful
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 09:57 AM
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22. the plane's controls could have been hijacked
whether there were people on board or not.

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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 09:27 PM
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13. I need help figuring out THIS--
Graphic related to story below:

http://www.ideamouth.com/politics/

White House Memo Leads to Sept. 11th Money Trail By Dan Spillane and Audrey Mantey, The Liberty Whistle
-At least five normally independent indicators moved in sync after Bush warned
-On Sept. 10th, instead of US citizens getting a warning, Halliburton got a contract

(10/6 UPDATE includes new Must see! MONEY TRAIL TO WHITE HOUSE GRAPHIC; click HERE .)

(SEATTLE) 09/30/04 - A series of new findings brings into doubt Bush Administration claims regarding September 11th, and shows the work of the 9-11 Commission is incomplete. According to what Bush told the public, and as documented in the 9-11 report, an August 6th 2001 memo delivered to the White House warned of imminent attacks (“Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US”)--but was described as “historical in nature,” and thus was essentially ignored by the White House. (1) Therefore, as far as the public knows, no actions were taken based on the memo.

It’s not as if the US hasn’t been looking for unusual pre-9-11 actions. In fact, the official 9-11 report examined stock trading before the attacks, and concluded with some degree of confidence that there weren’t profits taken based on information before the attacks. Unfortunately, the 9-11 report provides no details on how such analysis was done--and importantly, the report makes no mention of analyzing events in terms of the August 6th White House memo. In short, the 9-11 commission tried to find “needles in haystacks.”

Indeed, then it should be of no surprise that a comparison of trading specifically before and after August 6th, in terms of a number of normally independent indicators reveals more information, and illustrates an interesting and hitherto undiscovered convergence around the August 6th date. Incredibly, in this light, a major shift is visible in both market indicators, and in business announcements subsequent to the supposedly “ignored” warning memo.

Take for example, the stock of Halliburton Corporation, known so well for its association with US Vice President Dick Cheney. It plummeted on high volume immediately after the memo--previously having closely followed its own sector up until August 6th. Moreover, this divergence was punctuated not only by the date of August 6th, but was also underscored by a September 10th 2001 contract award to Halliburton. Astonishingly, on September 10th, 2001, the news read “Halliburton Unit Picked to Participate in Program to Reduce Threat of Weapons Of Mass Destruction.” (Source: Halliburton)

Click here to read about Sep 10, 2001 Halliburton WMD project award

But the September 11th “clairvoyance” didn’t stop at Halliburton. After the memo, signs began bleeding into the stock market at large. The stock market volatility index (the “VIX”), a measure of market fear, suddenly shot up after the August 6th memo. By September 10th 2001, the VIX index sharply spiked up forty-five percent--to a level in line with the Asian financial crisis. Yet, in the Asian crisis case, news of disaster was already out in the open, which contrasts sharply with environment of September 10th, 2001--when bad news wasn’t out. Remarkably, then, it’s fair to conclude certain stock market investors knew a crisis was going to happen--the day before. In effect, the VIX, while normally independent of Halliburton stock, suddenly moved in lockstep with Halliburton.

Next, in line with the spike in the VIX, yet another indicator foretold September 11th. The put/call stock options ratio--a measure of sophisticated investors betting on a market fall--peaked twice, to a level over one. First, the ratio peaked for the very options transition period immediately after the White House memo, and before September 11th (which crested on August 17th) and next, it peaked on September 10th, the day before the strike. Once again, the put/call ratio moves correspond with Halliburton steps and the August 6th and September 10th dates. Finally, at least one close associate of Mr. Cheney made a business move on September 10th.

What’s incredible is how many signs point to the fact that the White House knew about September 11th in advance, and leaked. Clearly, not one but at least five pieces of evidence exist. The evidence of the unusual stock pattern of Halliburton after the White House warning memo, the special advance timing of the Halliburton WMD contract, the VIX and put/call indicators, and more, showed the White House leaked the September 11th warning to a select few. But alas, no real actions were taken to defend the American people. No, instead, actions were taken to defend Halliburton stockholders and a select few, and further, to enhance their profits.

The simplified charts below show how Halliburton stock turned on high volume when the memo hit the White House; the memo is illustrated by the line bisecting the graphs.

A large, comprehensive graphic is shown, illustrating all the patterns converging around the August 6th memo:

Click here for LARGE CHART showing MONEY TRAIL TO WHITE HOUSE

Footnotes: 1) “The President told us the August 6 report was historical in nature.” (9-11 report, chapter 8)

(Dan Spillane is a computer scientist living in Seattle, Washington, who also studies economics, pure science, and politics. Working with Bev Harris in 2002 and early 2003, he exposed problems related to electronic voting systems certification and Diebold; this set the stage for discussion of the issue at the national level.)

(Audrey Mantey is an instructor at an arts academy in Michigan. She worked in US military intelligence/counterintelligence for over a decade.)
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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 10:19 PM
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15. I'm glad to see this post is getting noticed. Everybody should
read everything you can find that Karl has written. It's very revealing. He has even written a book. *One way ticket to Crawford, Texas* Several chapters of this book can be found online. Just do a google search. "Karl W. B. Schwarz" THIS stuff is why I think Washington D.C. is paralyzed, and not acting on the vote fraud stuff. THIS 9/11 thing affects both sides of the isle. Karl told me that we don't know the half of it yet. E-mail him and he will converse with you. <kw.schwarz@worldnet.att.net>

I worry for his safety. This man is a Christian who was outraged at what he saw happening in Washington! He has turned the town of Washington on it's head!!! He talks to me like a "student" and I talk with him as though he were a "professor". He has yet to tell all he knows..........
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villagechild Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 11:09 PM
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16. The Real Karl Schwarz and an Apology

Mr. Karl Scchwarz's business integrity (approve) http://karmakat.typepad.com/picasso_dreams/2004/10/teh_real_karl_s.html

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4democracy Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 11:19 PM
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17. Do you think the people@ Democracy Now would look into this?
Edited on Sat Nov-20-04 11:20 PM by 4democracy
I saw the guy who wrote that book, Confessions of an Economic Hitman, being interviewed the other day by Amy Goodman. Maybe they would find out some more info about this.
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 02:01 AM
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19. Yes it is interesting. But, will anything ever be done about these mass
murderers? Karl Schwartz does have the goods on these asshats, but nothing seems to come through. It is so frustrating!
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__Inanna__ Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 02:30 AM
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20. It's a shocker
I came across these two audio interviews, which I recommend listening to at the following links:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/020804vonbuelow.html

http://www.prisonplanet.com/022904degrandpre.html

Both of these interviewees are extremely credible. I had a hard time when I first stumbled upon this.
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Left Brain Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 03:35 AM
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21. Good Lord!
"World fascism."

The VonBuelow transcript was all I could stomach. If true, this is more sinister than vote fraud, more terrifying than a republican-controlled government.

Is there an old-time DUer out there who can either verify or debunk any of these sources?
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pbartch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 05:39 PM
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28. Here is copy of his letter to Bush
Subject: An American demands the truth from you

September 30, 2004
By Email, By Facsimile to White House

Mr. President,

I am a Conservative Christian Republican that has no intentions of voting for you in this year's election and many other Conservative Republicans are following me.

America demands the TRUTH and not after the elections; this nation demands the truth from you RIGHT NOW! This letter and an identical email will be going out to hundreds of thousands by me, millions by others. The following content was sent to the White House by facsimile earlier today from Ground Zero in New York City. 1. I demand as an American citizen that you lift the "gag order" on Sibel D. Edmonds and let Americans know what foreign names and what AMERICAN NAMES she uncovered in her FBI translations that were involved in drug trafficking, money laundering and the financing of 9-11. Her facts and your "official story" lies do not add up. Americans demand the truth on that matter before the election.

2. I demand to know what energy companies were in that Cheney Energy Task Force meeting and what discussions there were as to the steps that would be taken to remove the Taliban and Bridas Corporation as the last remaining obstacle to the United States controlling the Trans-Afghanistan Pipeline. I met that company in 1999 and have known since then about the Bridas v Unocal, $15 billion interference of contract lawsuit in US District Court, Southern District of Texas. I also know about the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals decision on September 9, 2003 that upheld the Bridas $500 million arbitration settlement and the March 22, 2004 denial of Writ of Certiorari at the United States Supreme Court, Case 03-1018, Turkmenneft v Bridas.

3. I demand to know how many prisoners are being held at GITMO and other places that are either BRIDAS EMPLOYEES or are persons that know all about Bridas Corporation and what your administration did to get control of that Trans-Afghanistan pipeline.

4. I demand to know how many board meetings Condoleezza Rice and Thomas Kean sat in on at Chevron and Amerada Hess where it was discussed how they were going to deal with making the billions in "Big Oil" investments into a land locked Caspian Basin and how to get rid of the Taliban and Bridas so they could turn those investments into cash flow. How many times did Big Oil ask for military force to complete a commercial transaction they could not get under their control, and on what exact date did you agree to provide such military force - prior to 9-11? Isn’t it true Mr. Bush that the Cheney Energy Task Force discussed that attack on Afghanistan and removal of the Taliban / Bridas obstacle once and for all – and did so well in advance of 9-11?

5. I demand to know why you appointed 10 persons to the 9-11 Commission, 8 of which are directly benefiting by the Taliban / Bridas "contract" obstacle being removed - breached with military force, and the big Caspian Oil deals that are now coming to market. No, America does not 'thank you' for that nor do we hold such despicable conduct up high.

6. I demand to know what US Oil Company stepped up as the sponsor of that OPIC and Asia Development Bank funded Trans-Afghanistan pipeline and what US company is constructing that pipeline right now, and what US firms are supplying the key components and their relationship to your administration.

7. I demand that you identify the company and persons who were going around Bridas to be "natural gas suppliers" to the US owned natural gas electrical generation plants in Pakistan (Dynegy - Illinova /Tenaska, El Paso (2 OPIC financed transactions) and others.

8. I demand to know why you have not been truthful with the American public that your GWOT and military policy are protecting the Caspian Basin Oil and Gas deals for many of your Bush Pioneers, some $9.6 trillion in oil and about $3 trillion in natural gas, now mostly in the hands of your elite wealthy contributors and some elite Liberals to keep this all quiet.

9. I demand to know what role the post-bankruptcy ENRON (Prisma Energy International, Cayman Islands) is playing in the Caspian Basin area, the same Enron that uses the law firm of Mayer Brown Rowe & Maw that established the offshore SPE's for assets that were never under the jurisdiction of the U.S. Bankruptcy Court.

10. I demand to know why you appointed Richard Ben Veniste to the 9-11 Commission when it was his law firm that was stalling Bridas Corporation at the Fifth Circuit US Court of Appeals in the matter of Bridas Corporation v. Turkmenneft and his law firm is directly involved in Pakistan, Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan and your administration.

11. I demand to know the exact date of the order that had our military practicing in early 2001 the invasion of Afghanistan to take out the Taliban and Bridas Corporation and make that pipeline under control of US interests, many of your Bush Pioneers, and the exact date that our military started practicing and preparing for that invasion.

12. I demand to know who Remington Holdings Ltd is, and Western Acquisitions, Inc, both Baker & Botts clients and the lucky recipients of OPIC financing to acquire oil and gas deposits in Pakistan. Who are the parties involved in those entities by name and benefited from such governmental magnanimity? Is this transaction a payoff? Since American taxpayers are footing the bill, we have the right to know - right now.

13. I demand to know why you could not find 10 people to sit on the 9-11 Commission that are not directly benefiting from the actions you have taken and the lives you have cost or otherwise ruined. Why would you select people not motivated to find the truth for that would impact "their bottom line"?

14. I demand a full disclosure from your administration as to the Citibank/ IFTRIC / OPIC / Export-Import Bank financing of American / Israeli based deals in Islamic nations on behalf of your major campaign contributors.

"IFTRIC and Citibank have an agreement allowing Citibank to finance approved IFTRIC-backed transactions. Citibank Israel CEO Nandan Mar said: ‘The Citibank branch, and the Structured Trade Finance Group, view IFTRIC’s program as a basic product for the bank’s domestic activities.’"

I see distinct differences between "terrorism" and "outrage" (Shurtan II) at your policies.

15. I demand to know why you wanted an entire new division of the CIA for Argentina. As an American citizen I take umbrage to your belligerence towards a nation that is not an enemy of the United States by any stretch of the imagination, except possibly yours. It is abundantly clear that your intentions were solely to intimidate Argentina and Argentina based Bridas Corporation into silence and that is NOT AMERICA. That has every appearance of the United States acting as the terrorist and a state sponsor of terrorism. Yes, you are wrapped in a flag but I clearly see that it is not the one you purport it to be.

16. I demand to know why your administration has never disclosed that DynPort Vaccine, LLC, owned by DynCorp and now owned by Computer Sciences Corporation, a Bush Pioneer, is a possible source for where the weaponized Ames Strain of anthrax came from that was used against this nation. How did your administration manage to miss one of your campaign contributors and a company doing large volumes of business with your administration and even being known euphemistically (DynCorp) as The Mercenary Company? Who put that Contract on America?

17. I demand to know how you can claim a pretense of being a Christian while sponsoring and condoning the torture of prisoners, including sodomizing children, at Abu Ghraib prison.

18. I demand to know how your administration can send firms overseas as "representatives of this nation" that were convicted of running a flesh trade in little girls in Bosnia, specifically one DynCorp. Convicted in Texas and the United Kingdom according to reports I have seen and apparently detested in Afghanistan. You do recall that DynCorp is the company providing security to protect your puppet Karzai in Afghanistan and your other puppet Zalmay Khalilzad is deterring anyone from running for President in that bogus "free" democracy?

19. I demand to know why your administration keeps running the name and photos of Adnan G. El Shukrijumah as the "dirty bomb boogeyman" and on March 25, 2003 the FBI knew exactly where to find him and did not go after him. That telephone call was made from my telephone by a Canadian friend that was in Little Rock on that date, Mr. Bush, so do not pretend "national security" with me. I am "first person" on this matter and all of America deserves to know the extent that your administration has been and is lying to us all – and someone that is not Al Qaeda is probably "dropping a suspect name" as they set up a dirty bomb attack. Sure have pushed up the oil and gas prices with your strategy though, guess we can consider that another "Mission Accomplished".

20. I demand to know why your administration keeps referring to Adnan G. El Shukrijumah as a "Saudi" when the FBI knows full well he is not Saudi. His family is from Guyana in South America and they have lived in Florida since 1986 without incident. His grandparents were from Yemen, moved long ago to South America and his mother is from Trinidad & Tobago.

21. I demand to know why you alerted India, Pakistan and "Axis of Evil" member Iran of your intentions to attack the Taliban / Bridas well before 9-11, and not notify the citizens of this nation. That matter was reported on June 26, 2001 in India newspapers.

22. I demand to know the exact date that the first meeting, first page of the Patriot Act was started by your administration.

23. I demand to know why it is you, your backers, certain Democrats that apparently "hate our freedoms" more than these purported GWOT Islamic fundamentalists, hence the Patriot Act that treats all Americans with the same degree of contempt and disdain you treat all non-wealthy Americans.

24. I demand to know why Homeland Security is protecting this government and not protecting this nation.

25. I demand to know why any dissent or objections to your Orwellian, imperialistic, pro-corporate agenda is referred to the Homeland Security Counter-Terrorism Division.

26. I demand to know why you defile everything you touch and try to twist it into something that is pro-Bush Backers and anti-American citizens and then try to alter our rights as Americans via Patriot Act measures that are designed to force America into submission and does nothing to protect this nation, only this government.

27. I demand to know why your administration is planning a "pro-Bush Pioneers pharmaceutical program" derived from TMAP (Texas Medical Algorithm Project) and PENNMAP (Tom Ridge, Pennsylvania) to have Americans tested under guidelines prepared by your Bush Pioneers and force psychotropic drugs on Americans.

28. I demand to know why your administration keeps injecting our troops with an anthrax vaccine known to be deadly and harmful to the health of our soldiers and now apparently wish to inject that into all Americans under Project BioShield and martial law. Is that why you have no concern whatsoever for the 3 million jobs lost, for between your TMAP lunacy and Project BioShield lunacy, well over 3 million Americans could perish if the same statistical rates hit the general population as has hit our military? Can you explain away Holocaust with "brilliant strategy policy" driven by unmitigated greed?

29. I demand to know why Li Ka-shing was denied Global Crossing on national security grounds (very public) yet allow him in the back door in Savi Technology (not disclosed), the RFID technology company that is purportedly protecting our ports from insertion of a nuclear bomb into this nation via "ocean going containers". How many doors are left wide open by your administration in this GWOT Fable?

30. I demand to know why you search the world for mythical terrorists and cannot find robber barons and financial terrorists right under your nose. That many of them are Bush Pioneers and even backers of the Democratic Party, and have plundered the investors, workers and citizens of this nation, is very apparent to Americans and not very pro-family on your part.

Christians do not lie, Mr. Bush, for that is an affront to God. A Christian would not willfully mislead this nation, nor send our troops into Harm’s Way for a lie while your wealthy contributors take over a $9.6 trillion oil, $3.0 trillion natural gas deal and already maneuvering for Africa. You are proving to the world that you are terrified of the truth and have impeded every investigation into the truth. Your actions prove that you are not an upstanding Christian, nor are you a Conservative Republican worthy of that designation.

Your position as President does not make you unaccountable to the citizens of this nation, nor does it entitle you to act as a tyrant, an emperor, or serving only those Americans that dole out money for your political ambitions and agendas. I see no "stewardship" in your conduct whatsoever.

You have "Mission Accomplished" three times - the removal of Taliban / Bridas to control that pipeline, radically escalated the price of oil and gas for some of your major backers, and the death and maiming of many due to your lies. Your "Iraq Strategery" makes perfect sense to me, since all of you needed a diversion away from Afghanistan, the Caspian Basin and what you did to Bridas Corporation to get control of that $9.6 trillion in oil, $3 trillion in natural gas.

Go back home and wrap yourself in the flag of Texas and the shame you alone are responsible for creating. Your resume is your doing and yours alone.

If you were running against me this year, you would not have the guts to stay on the stage in a debate with me.

Shame on all of you, both sides of the aisle that have lied to America and gotten so many killed and maimed for a lie, and no, I am not an antiwar person. Just adamantly opposed to what you stand for, for that is lower than Clinton on his worst day.

Sincerely,

Karl W. B. Schwarz

President, Chief Executive Officer
Patmos Nanotechnologies, LLC

http://www.911citizenswatch.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=406
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 12:23 PM
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24. Anyone not been to the 9/11 room ? There are many interesting
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 04:36 PM
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25. I have read so many Stanley Hilton interviews. Why is he having a
problem getting someone in Congress to try this case? What is the hold up? I'm frustrated beyond belief. Is he just trying to get more exposure so maybe someone in Congress will want to try it then?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 05:19 PM
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26. There are others also TexasChick maybe someday?
NY Att'y Gen Accept Unprecedent Complaint Demanding Criminal Inq 911Crimes


NY Attorney General's Office Accepts Unprecedented Citizens' Complaint Demanding Criminal Inquiry into 9/11 Crimes
To: National Desk

Contact: David Kubiak, 207-967-2390, kubiak@nancho.net or Kyle F. Hence, 401-935-7715, kylehence@earthlink.net

NEW YORK, Oct. 28 /U.S. Newswire/ -- On behalf of New York State Attorney General Eliot Spitzer, Chief Investigator William Casey today accepted a Complaint and Petition from a group of New York City citizens including 9/11 family members, survivors and a Ground Zero triage physician. The Complaint demands that the AG open a criminal inquiry and/or grand jury investigation into the many still unsolved crimes of September 11, 2001 over which he has jurisdiction.

The complainants first held a press conference to explain the reasoning and desperation behind their unique Citizens' Complaint and Petition, which calls for criminal and civil probes into previously suppressed or ignored areas of inquiry identified by the 9/11 Family Steering Committee, 9/11 CitizensWatch and many independent researchers.

The lead complainants currently include Bob McIlvaine, who lost his son Robert in the World Trade Center collapse; Patricia Perry, who lost her son John, a New York City Police officer; William Rodriguez, a WTC maintenance worker and rescue effort hero; Jenna Orkin, Chairwoman of the World Trade Center Environmental Organization; Dr. Faiz Khan, Ground Zero triage physician; and ambulance first responder,. Megan Bartlett, founder of Ground Zero for Peace (who was recently hospitalized with malignant reactions to toxic WTC dust and unable to attend).

In brief statements prior to signing the 20-page Citizens' Complaint, the complainants voiced their hope that the public would strongly support their call to Attorney General Spitzer and also urge him to finally investigate the victim families' questions that the 9/11 Commission would not touch. Explaining the timing of the action, organizers cited the very recent Zogby 9/11 Poll ( http://www.zogby.com/search/ReadNews.dbm?ID=855 ) which showed that nearly half of New Yorkers believe officials in this government "consciously" allowed the 9/11 attacks to succeed, and that 66 percent wanted a new and deeper investigation. They further noted steadily accumulating evidence that belies the "official narrative" such as this week's breaking story on the "black box" recorders recovered from the WTC site, the existence of which the FBI and Kean Commission had both insistently denied. See http://tinyurl.com/4drr3

more
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=39128


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9/11 Citizens' Commission -- Sept. 9th NYC


Distribution via the Unanswered Questions Wire
http://www.unansweredquestions.org / .

9/11 Citizens' Commission -- Sept. 9th NYC

9/11 CitizensWatch
http://www.911citizenswatch.org

MEDIA ADVISORY
9/11 Citizens' Commission + Pre-Event Morning Press Conference

What: 9/11 Citizens' Commission: "The Omission Hearings"; co-chaired by Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney and former Bush Sr. official Catherine Austin Fitts, who are set to hear testimony from Ashcroft-gagged whistleblower Sibel Edmonds recently featured on 60 Minutes, Paul Thompson, author of The Terror Timeline (Harper-Collins), Michael Ruppert (author, Crossing the Rubicon, whose newsletter is read by 35 members/staffs in Congress) and 9/11 victim family members.

PRESS CONFERENCE to precede event.

Commission hearings to be followed by world premiere of 9/11 documentary by Barrie Zwicker at 8PM & 9:30PM Thursday evening.

Where: The Symphony Space, Peter Jay Sharp Theater; 2537 Broadway at 95th St.

When: Thursday, September 9, 1-7 pm <+ evening showings of documentary>

PRESS CONFERENCE TO BEGIN AT 11:30AM

Why: A new Zogby poll ( http://www.zogby.com/news ) shows that 49.3% of New York City residents believe some government leaders "consciously failed" on 9/11.

Two/thirds (66%) call for a re-opening of the investigation. Given the pivotal historical significance of 9/11, the investigation must proceed to full disclosure and examination of as yet unfollowed lines of inquiry. Common citizens, scholars, and whistleblowers must take, and are taking, this into their own hands.

Contact: Kyle Hence, 212-243-7787; kfh@911citizenswatch.org

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/WO0409/S00066.htm

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WTC Rescue Hero Sues Bush and Others under RICO Statute

By: Philip J. Berg, Margaret Atheling Rowe
Published: Oct 23, 2004

On September 11, 2001, William Rodriguez, a maintenance worker at the World Trade Center in Manhattan, single-handedly rescued fifteen people. The only employee with the master key to the North Tower staircases, he led firefighters up the stairs, unlocking doors as he went, aiding in the evacuation of hundreds of additional people who, but for his efforts, might have perished. Although his job description did not include saving lives, Rodriguez re-entered the building three times after the first plane struck, and was the last person to exit the North Tower alive. He survived the collapse of the North Tower by diving beneath a fire truck to avoid the avalanche of concrete and steel. After onsite treatment for his injuries, Rodriguez plunged right back into rescue efforts at the site. At dawn the next morning, Rodriguez returned to Ground Zero from his home in Jersey City, to continue to aid in rescue efforts.

Later, Rodriguez became an unofficial spokesman for survivors, among other things helping to secure an amnesty for undocumented aliens, many of them Latinos, and in the creation of the World Trade Center Memorial Fund. Although he lost his job of 19 years and his means of livelihood — even falling into homelessness for a time — Rodriguez has continued in the three years since 9-11 to continue his work in honor of the heroes and the victims of that awful day, as president of the Hispanic Victims Group, Director of the 9/11 United Services Group, and member of the Family Advisory Council of the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation.

Now, this native of Puerto Rico and remarkable American hero is taking his 9-11 activism to an even higher level. He has commenced, as Plaintiff, a federal court lawsuit against George W. Bush, Richard B. Cheney, Donald H. Rumsfeld and others alleging that they and others were complicit in the 9-11 attacks, and either planned the attacks, or had foreknowledge of the attacks and permitted them to succeed, in order to exploit a “New Pearl Harbor” to launch wars against Afghanistan and Iraq. (The phrase “New Pearl Harbor” comes from a declaration of principles by the neo-conservative “Project for the New American Century,” in which it is proposed as an event needed to steel American public opinion to support the overthrow of Saddam Hussein, and U.S. military domination of the Middle East.)

Attorney Berg acknowledges that Rodriguez’s action will shock and offend many Americans. But he urges critics to read the detailed complaint, posted on the internet at www.911forthetruth.com, before forming conclusions. “The ‘Official Story’ of what actually took place on 9-11 is a lie,” Berg flatly maintains. “We do not pretend to have put together a full and definitive account of how, and by whom, the attacks were carried out. But information reported in mainstream media, and viewed in the light of common sense and the laws of physics, demonstrate that the ‘Official Story,’ examined closely, is not credible. The ‘Official Story’ contains an alarming number of inconsistencies and implausibilities. The major media have reported many of the raw facts, but have studiously avoided analysis, because doing so would reveal that the government is lying to us. The 9-11 Commission, a suspect collection of government and intelligence insiders, restated without question or examination all essential elements of the ‘Official Story’ of the actual events of 9-11. It failed almost completely to refute, or even to mention, the great body of evidence that suggests the ‘Official Story’ cannot be true, and it failed completely to hold anyone accountable. From the foregoing facts, it ought to be obvious that a cover-up, or a “limited hang-out” admitting only bureaucratic mistakes for which no one is to be held accountable, has taken place and is continuing.”

more
http://www.yubanet.com/artman/publish/article_14643.shtml

Update (06/15): Rodriguez "swears he saw United Airlines Flight 175 hijacker Mohand Alshehri in June 2001"

In a recent event by 9/11 Citizen's Watch, which got broadcasted on C|Span, William Rodriguez from the 9/11 Hispanic Victims Group and 9/11 United Services Group, claimed, he not only recognised suspicious movements from a floor under construction, some weeks before Sep11th, he also claimed, he saw one of the official Sep11th -"hijackers". Today Rodriguez testified for the 9/11 panel

June 8, submitted by 9/11 family members

"...I testified today for the 9/11 Commission. It was an experience to have the investigators listen and to actually concentrate on some of the problems with the building itself. I know we have been very vociferous about the construction and the problems with egress and escape.

Some of the statements I got were in the sense of why they did not speak to me before, and the need to continue interviews with survivors and first responders. When we spoke about the subpoena powers, I was told that they haven't issued any to actual survivors or first responders because they understand the emotional impact and the problems it had created for their families...


In my experience, I was able to set the record straight in a lot of statements and errors from the fire Dept. We talk about the radio problems, doors not opening up, vacant floors, debris on the stairwells and my interviews with the FBI about seeing one of the hijackers in the building 3 months before. In short, I expect to be called again..."


William Rodriguez -Hispanic Victims Group

http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/news/print.php?storyid=385
Board of Directors
Officers

William Rodriguez

William Rodriguez, formerly an American Building Maintenance employee for twenty years, was responsible for inspection and maintenance at the World Trade Center and held the master key for the stairs. He was the last person to leave the building on September 11 and has been credited with saving many lives.

For his efforts, he received the National Hero Award from the Senate of Puerto Rico. Since September 11, Mr. Rodriguez has been very active in all aspects of the relief efforts, including the memorial, the federal fund and the charities, as well as appearing before many government officials on such topics.

Mr. Rodriguez has also helped coordinate aid within the Hispanic community, organizing the Hispanic Victims Group, which is working with 150 families. He attended Sacred Heart University and lives in Jersey City, NJ.

http://www.9-11usg.org/article.asp?id=707&page=DIRECTOR

http://www.summeroftruth.org /



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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 05:27 PM
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27. Thanks, seemslikeadream! I know about the Berg lawsuit, but I feel
Stanley may have more evidence. (Sigh) I guess all we can do is wait! :(
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Niccolo_Macchiavelli Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 07:05 AM
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30. kick(nt)
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Kenergy Donating Member (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:12 AM
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31. Very interesting. Good post Bama. n/t
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