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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:10 AM
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"God is With Us" : "Gott Mit Uns"
"God Is With Us": Hitler's Rhetoric and the Lure of "Moral Values"

by Maureen Farrell

"God does not make cowardly nations free." -- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf

A couple weeks ago, while asserting that the Founding Founders intended for the U.S. government to be infused with Christianity, Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia said that the Holocaust was able to flourish in Germany because of Europe's secular ways. "Did it turn out that, by reason of the separation of church and state, the Jews were safer in Europe than they were in the United States of America?" Scalia asked a congregation at Manhattan's Shearith Israel synagogue. "I don't think so."

One might expect regular citizens to be ignorant of history, but a Supreme Court Justice? Does he imagine that the phrase "Gott mit Uns" was a German clothier's interpretation of "Got Milk"?

If photographic evidence of the Third Reich's Christian leanings were not enough, Hitler's own speeches and writings prove, at the very least, that he presented many of the same faith-based arguments heard in America today. Religion in the schools? Hitler was for it. Intellectuals who practiced "anti-Christian, smug individualism"? According to Hitler, their days were numbered. Divine Providence's role in shaping Germany's ultimate victory? Who could argue? In other words, there is enough historical evidence to color Scalia deluded. Writing for Free Inquiry, John Patrick Michael Murphy explained:

"Hitler's Germany amalgamated state with church. Soldiers of the vermacht wore belt buckles inscribed with the following: "Gott mit uns" (God is with us). His troops were often sprinkled with holy water by the priests. It was a real Christian country whose citizens were indoctrinated by both state and church and blindly followed all authority figures, political and ecclesiastical.

Hitler, like some of the today's politicians and preachers, politicized "family values." He liked corporeal punishment in home and school. Jesus prayers became mandatory in all schools under his administration. While abortion was illegal in pre-Hitler Germany, he took it to new depths of enforcement, requiring all doctors to report to the government the circumstances of all miscarriages. He openly despised homosexuality and criminalized it."

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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:32 AM
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1. Speer's books
Edited on Tue Dec-07-04 11:33 AM by PATRICK
of the dismal goings on in the Hitler cabinet show the amoral vacuity behind the legend and hype. Hitler ridiculed the Aryan legend nonsense that a few of his cronies took very seriously, notably Himmler. It is very plain when someone is going through the motions and at best only using religion. Like Joe Stalin under siege suddenly invoking God to get allied support and the people he had betrayed by trusting Hitler above all other mortals.

I think separating ALL the historical chaff is useful rather than just centering on the Third Reich despite the close Bush family ties to to that crowd. The particular shifts and flavors of tyranny all come close to boring one to tears with the repetition of useless suffering and idiotic manipulations.

Scalia seems to be forever running a counter-intuitive campaign for Chief Justice by opening his trap too much. He must think he is a shoe in and wants to have his outrages sealed as acceptable in the process so that no one can act outraged when he starts remaking the law of the land into the claw of powerful. He is far worse than the German judges they convicted at Nuremberg. In spirit at least, because some of them had scruples to overcome and careers to protect. Scalia is just full of himself and that self is BS.
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whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 09:48 PM
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3. and Quote:
"The national government will maintain and defend the foundations on which the power of our nation rests. It will offer strong protection to Christianity as the very basis of our collective morality.

Today Christians stand at the head of our country. We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit. We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theatre, and in the press-- in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during the past years."

--Adolf Hitler



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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 10:03 PM
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4. Gee..Didn't Scalia said that the Jews in Germany had problems because
Edited on Sun Dec-19-04 10:04 PM by BrklynLiberal
of the separation of Church and State? Guess he forgot to read his history books before he made that speech. DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 06:18 AM
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5. I'm sure Fat Tony has his round up the gays opinion written!
It's only a matter of time before the lesbians and gays are rounded up this time.

My people? oh, this time we all have to be rounded up, but we can't be given the Hitler treatment this time! We have to be shipped over to Israel, after all that is what that stupid book of fairy tales says will happen...
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 07:12 AM
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6. Great article...
pass it on folks.
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 10:12 AM
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7. UnF**ckingBelievable. eom
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