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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:40 PM
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Constitution Butchered in Winter of ‘04 ... EXCELLENT
Conservativetion Butchered in Winter of ‘04

Infowars.com | December 9, 2004
alex jones

Never before in US history have the Congress and the President done so much to destroy the rights that make America America.

The New Freedom Initiative

In late November, the New Freedom Initiative passed Congress by a giant majority. This so-called conservative plan to force psychologically test every child in America whether they are public, private or home schooled dwarves anything that Stalin in Russia or the East German Stasi came up with regards to forced psychological testing of the population. The program even expands into pregnant women, who could, through the program, be forced to take psychotropic drugs that are known to cause birth defects in babies.

The guidelines for the New Freedom Initiative were written by the drug companies, and they have openly bragged that they will augment their doping of the American people from the current fifteen percent to fifty percent. That is, half of the people in America would be on mind-numbing drugs.

In polls, up to eighty percent were against the New Freedom Initiative. Congress just did not care. Neither did Bush – forced psychological testing is “conservative” after all.

Patriot Act II

http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/constitution_butchered.htm
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samwisefoxburr Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:43 PM
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1. What happens if one refuses to take the mental exam?
Anybody know?
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:44 PM
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2. Good question. I'm afraid to ask. eom
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:46 PM
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5. Can you say -- re-education camps?
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 02:10 PM
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9. More like brainwashing camps. eom
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:45 PM
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3. Nope, and parental consent is purposely absent from the plan
Edited on Thu Dec-09-04 01:46 PM by Melodybe
thank your house and senate, who overwhelmingly voted against adding it.

I am really pissed that the dems are voting for this shit.

It literally makes me ill.
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samwisefoxburr Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:47 PM
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6. We should also find out whether government officials will need the exam.
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:57 PM
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8. If it was required, most would fail. eom
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:49 PM
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7. And how are they going to test the "home schooled"?
Seems like they've left a loophole that their base of fundies could exploit a mile wide.
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:46 PM
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4. Who needs mind-numbing drugs - Survivor's on tonight.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 04:12 PM
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10. The state now exists only to serve us up to the corporations
Edited on Thu Dec-09-04 04:19 PM by Hardhead
Does anyone know where I can find the vote on this monstrosity?
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 04:23 PM
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11. so who's gonna pay for the drugs? . . .
these psychotropic drugs ain't cheap . . . will the parents of kids diagnosed as "mentally ill" be required to shell out hundreds of dollars a month? . . . or will the drugs be paid for by the government, thus increasing our already obscene deficit by billions? . . .

and what happens if you just don't take your meds? . . . will each pill have an imbedded RFID chip so they can just scan you to see if you've taken your pill today? . . .

lots of interesting questions surround this idiotic program . . . and let's not forget that our Democratic senators and reps voted for it! . . .
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 05:12 PM
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14. They were already doing it in Ill. and Texas:
Five letters on the New Freedom Commission

Wednesday, September 08, 2004
I want to thank and applaud the Leader for publishing Ms. Robinson's very insightful story about what is truly behind the so called mental health "screening" of children <"Illinois, eye of national mental health storm," August 31, 2004>. I wrote to the ICMHP about this over a month ago and have received no response. The letter is mostly a technical letter about the great harm caused by these medications, their lack of efficacy -- even to the point of being very counterproductive -- and the desirability of non-drug approaches.
Unfortunately, rather than truly helping kids who are experiencing emotional problems, the screening effort is really just a drugging dragnet for Big Pharma.
James B. Gottstein, Esq.
http://www.illinoisleader.com/letters/lettersview.asp?c=19099




The Texas Medication Algorithm Project, or TMAP, was held up by the panel as a "model" medication treatment plan that "illustrates an evidence-based practice that results in better consumer outcomes."

The TMAP -- started in 1995 as an alliance of individuals from the pharmaceutical industry, the University of Texas and the mental health and corrections systems of Texas -- also was praised by the American Psychiatric Association, which called for increased funding to implement the overall plan.

But the Texas project sparked controversy when a Pennsylvania government employee revealed state officials with influence over the plan had received money and perks from drug companies who stand to gain from it.

Allen Jones, an employee of the Pennsylvania Office of the Inspector General says in his whistleblower report the "political/pharmaceutical alliance" that developed the Texas project, which promotes the use of newer, more expensive antidepressants and antipsychotic drugs, was behind the recommendations of the New Freedom Commission, which were "poised to consolidate the TMAP effort into a comprehensive national policy to treat mental illness with expensive, patented medications of questionable benefit and deadly side effects, and to force private insurers to pick up more of the tab."

http://www.infowars.com/articles/brave_new_world/new_freedom_paul_amendment.htm
To register refusal of plan:
http://www.ablechild.org/declaration%20of%20refusal.aspx

some other info, including about the implants:
http://www.mindfreedom.org/
http://mygov.governmentguide.com/mygov/bio/userletter/?letter_id=115135606&content_dir=congressorg
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul204.html
http://www.psychlaws.org/GeneralResources/article138.htm
http://www.campaignfortruth.com/Eclub/220704/CTM%20-%20bravenewworld.htm
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distantearlywarning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 04:42 PM
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12. More agitation about Patriot Act II over at "that other site"
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 05:01 PM
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13. Finally we have our SOMA! Only twenty years late! Not Bad!
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