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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 12:24 PM
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America as it ain't
Sunday, December 19, 2004
America as it ain't
It's no exaggeration to say the ignorance of college students is staggering

By Richard Nehrbass
The Huntington Beach resident is a professor of management at Cal State Dominguez Hills.

After America won its independence from Germany in the 19th century and Fidel Castro became the first ruler of the Soviet Union, Betsy Ross wrote "The Star Spangled Banner." Wait, that's not right. It was after the Emancipation Proclamation secured our independence from France and Tolstoy established his reputation as a singer and Stalin became the president of Italy.

No, this isn't "magic realism," or some obscure French philosopher's post-modernist view of history. It's our world, as understood by our children. Grown children, sitting in my classes at a campus of the California State University, and almost entirely the product of California's public schools. To reach my classes, they have successfully navigated 12 years of American public education, graduating in the top third of their class. They have a history of A and B grades, they have admirable SAT scores. They are the flower of their generation. And they know almost nothing about their country, their culture or the world in general.

(snip)

Most of my students can't explain the difference between the political parties, or what the United Nations is, or name a single member of the president's Cabinet. They don't read newspapers or magazines, seldom watch the news on television, and think actually reading a book is an exotic and particularly cruel form of punishment... The vast majority of these soon-to-be college grads were not aware of even the most basic facts concerning their nation's history. Most, for example, could not identify the decade of any of America's wars. Any! Most couldn't identify the century. A mere 16 percent were able to date the beginning of the Revolutionary War to the 1770s, and only 12 percent chose the 1860s as the time of the Civil War. Two-thirds were unable to date the War of 1812. The mind boggles.

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To test simple arithmetic skills, I asked what 70 percent of 240 was. This is middle school stuff. But most had no idea how to figure it out. When asked to make change for a $5 bill when a purchase came to $1.37, one-quarter of California's future bachelors of science weren't able to figure it out. Perhaps the problem is they're too busy studying current events. Perhaps, but only 16 percent could name California's two senators, and only 29 percent knew the Senate was composed of 100 members, though one soon-to-be grad said, "Fifty, two from each state."

(snip)

There were some positive results, of course. Sixty percent knew Nixon was the president who resigned in office, 95 percent chose Sacramento as their state's capital, and 81 percent more or less knew what the Holocaust referred to. ("When jewes were killed" and "killing of ethnical group" are actual quotes from soon-to-be university grads.) And 76 percent knew what happened on Pearl Harbor Day ("There was a bombing in the shape of a mushroom which killed many people and destroyed lands.")

But enough. After all, it's the system, not the students, that is at fault. Our young people are not stupid. Indeed, many are quite brilliant. But it's time we asked why after 12-plus years in our public schools, and a backpack full of As and Bs, they know so little about the world they live in. And it's past time for our nation's schoolteachers to take responsibility for what goes on in their classrooms. As things stand, they should be as "embarrassed" at the product oftheir labor as some of their own graduates are.

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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 12:27 PM
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1. If You Think the Kids are Messed Up, What About Their Parents?
The 51% that voted to put the chains of ignorance and poverty and abuse of power about the necks of all? But after all, it's so VERY important to save marriage from gays, and force other lands into a pseudo-democracy at the point of a gun....
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 12:35 PM
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2. Not to mention the "leader of the free world"
who, too, finds "reading a book is an exotic and particularly cruel form of punishment." Not to mention reading newspapers. How did he end up being married to a librarian? Or, rather, how can a librarian live with such an ignorant who is proud of this?
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 12:36 PM
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3. Do you have a link to the complete article?
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 02:31 PM
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7. Link. Sorry about omitting it
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Briar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 01:07 PM
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4. Just wait till the fundies corrupt the curriculum in every state
These kids went through the public school system. I wonder how the home schooled see the world!
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 01:12 PM
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5. We know why this happens.
It's no mystery. Politicians who want to look tough and say they're actually doing something about these problems push for more testing of students and more accountability from teachers. As a result, teachers teach students how to pass these tests and ignore other important educational objectives. In addition, teachers are strongly encouraged pass students who should be held back because holding students back is supposedly an indication of "failure" that might mean a decrease in state funding for the school.

There's no easy solution to this problem. It would help if we could get rid of all the standardized testing and allow teachers to fail students without hurting either themselves or their school. Of course, increasing the funding to pay for better teachers and infrastructure might help too, but this is the expensive option, and politicians tend to prefer the cheap option--more and more testing and less teaching.

-Laelth
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 02:10 PM
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6. Do you have a link for this? nt
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:41 AM
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8. This doesn't surprise me. eom
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 07:24 PM
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9. As a high school teacher who quit for 17 years and went back 5
years ago, I feel qualified to comment on this article. In the first place, the students today in general do not see the value of knowledge. Oh, I know Aristotle was complaining of the same thing, but this is driven by the continuous need to be entertained and to be an entity that receives knowledge with no effort. Many of my seniors preferred to flunk rather than read 1984...so flunk they will. Of course it will be my fault.
This professor is blinded by his own image as the great teacher. When I get the students and begin to teach them figures of speech, I know that it has been taught for the last 3 years, but these seniors claim to never have heard of it. They will do the same when they get to his college course. Their concentration is nil except for the things they, as high schoolers, enjoy.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 01:16 AM
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11. And the good old short attention span
with so many enticements on TV and on the Internet, reading a book, even participating in a meaningful conversation move further and further behind. Even the ones that are constantly gabbing on their cell phone - I often wonder whether they are afraid to be alone with their thoughts, whether they need some kind of affirmation to know that they can talk to someone on the phone.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 08:06 PM
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10. Until Education is seen as part of National Defense
and funded accordingly, our students will suffer.
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