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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:37 AM
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Harry Reid Is Not Boring
Harry Reid Is Not Boring
Has Scorsese fictionalized your U.S. senator?
By Chris Suellentrop
Posted Wednesday, Dec. 22, 2004

Like flies to wanton boys are politicians to the press. We kill them for our sport. But rarely has a public figure been subject to a campaign of character assassination as unfair as the one that's targeted Harry Reid since the Nevada senator was chosen to replace Tom Daschle as Senate minority leader. A vast conspiracy has lacerated Reid as "plain," or worse, boring. "As dry as the martinis he never drinks," Las Vegas Review-Journal political columnist Steve Sebelius told Matthew Continetti of the Weekly Standard, though Continetti devised an even better insult for the Democratic leader's "soporific public persona": Reid "might be taken for the man in the gray flannel suit's shorter, quieter second cousin," he wrote. The attacks on Reid's charm deficit aren't new—Congressional Quarterly noted 10 years ago, "Even Reid's supporters call him 'colorless'"—but Charles Babington of the Washington Post took the rhetoric to a new low last month when he declared that Reid "lacks Daschle's flair."

There was a time when a remark like that—akin to saying that someone lacks Emmanuel Lewis's height—was considered out of the bounds of respectable Washington discourse. Granted, Reid compares poorly to say, Mary Lou Retton when it comes to charisma. But what congressional leader doesn't? The Republican leadership, after all, includes Bill Frist and Mitch McConnell. Reid may not be the most colorful figure in Washington, but his career is far more interesting than that of the average senator. In politics, Nevada is the next best thing to Louisiana. To take just one example, is there another U.S. senator who has been part of the inspiration for a character in a Martin Scorsese film? (A character played by Dick Smothers, no less.) In Casino, Robert DeNiro's character melts down in front of the Nevada Gaming Commission after the commission denies him a license to operate a casino. The scene is loosely based on a December 1978 hearing when Reid was the commission's chairman, and some of the dialogue spoken by Smothers is taken directly from Reid's words during the hearing. (The rest of the scenes involving Smothers, who plays a composite politician known only as "Senator," have nothing to do with Reid.) OK, it's lackluster Scorsese, but at least it's not Gangs of New York. And there are other Reid echoes in Casino: Joe Pesci's character refers to a "Mr. Cleanface," which gangster Joe Agosto said was his nickname for an in-his-pocket Reid, but a five-month investigation of Agosto's claims cleared Reid of wrongdoing.

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And here's another story from Reid's tenure as chairman of the gaming commission: A man named Jack Gordon, who later married LaToya Jackson, tried to give Reid a $12,000 bribe. Reid let the FBI videotape Gordon offering him the bribe, and then, according to a Las Vegas Review-Journal account, he "put his hands around Gordon's neck and said, 'You son of a bitch, you tried to bribe me.'" That's right, Senate Democrats are being led by a man who once tried to strangle LaToya Jackson's future husband-manager. You call that boring? Even if he had never served on the gaming commission, Reid's biography would still be a better read than the average senator's. He is the son of an alcoholic gold miner who killed himself. His mother did laundry for, in Reid's words, "houses of ill repute." He once disguised himself as a homeless man and spent the night at a mission in Las Vegas. nomination. Quirkily, he never says good-bye, even to his children, when he hangs up the phone. He once filibustered the Republicans for nine hours, by himself, by reading from the history book he wrote about his hometown of Searchlight, Nev. (Even better, the reason for the filibuster was to prevent the GOP from protesting the delaying tactics being used by Democrats.) And just this past week in Time, Reid told Joe Klein that he got into a fistfight with his future father-in-law before he eloped with his wife.

I'll concede. Harry Reid is no Tom Daschle. Whether that will be good for the Democrats remains to be seen. But it won't be boring.
Chris Suellentrop is Slate's deputy Washington bureau chief. You can e-mail him at suellentrop@slate.com.


http://slate.msn.com/id/2111392/
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 07:17 AM
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1. OK, but when I watch him talk - He's less than animated - monotone even!
I must admit that I often find myself ...


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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 10:52 AM
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2. But His Politics Are Frightening!
Edited on Thu Dec-23-04 10:52 AM by Demeter
A man who thinks he can choose for all women is many things--insane, egotistical, deluded, dangerous, not worthy of a position of authority or power. Who cares about his personality?
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 09:58 PM
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3. Kick
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NoodleBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 03:39 PM
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5. he's pro-choice
the only people I've heard call him pro-life are media whores.
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 04:15 AM
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4. Let's give him a chance
we should not be attacking him
if he can pull the Dems in Congress together and fight back against the repugs that would be a world better than we were with Daschle.

I don't like his postion on abortion either but he is not running a single issue agenda.

Please give him a chance
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 02:44 AM
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7. I'd like to but it wasn't encouraging
to read in THE PROGRESSIVE that his fellow Democrats were bragging about how bland and milquetoast he sounded, arguing that he would be hard to attack because sending him in was like "sending in Mr. Rogers"

I'll write that again...

"sending in Mr. Rogers".

So these people think the Democrats need to make the U.S. Senate seem EVEN MORE like the Neighborhood of Make Believe?
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 07:45 PM
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6. Gotta admit, the strangling story is useful.
We keep hearing what a baddass the Chimp is supposed to be. We need to one- (and two-, and three- ) up these ratfuckers... maybe Harry's the guy after all.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 09:49 PM
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9. If Reid ever becomes majority leader, and develops an authoritarian streak
...will they say he has "a STRANGLEHOLD on the Senate"?
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proudbluestater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 05:41 AM
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8. This doesn't look very pro choice to me.
Voted YES on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime. (Mar 2004)
Voted YES on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life. (Mar 2003)
Voted YES on maintaining ban on Military Base Abortions. (Jun 2000)
Voted YES on banning partial birth abortions. (Oct 1999)
Voted YES on disallowing overseas military abortions. (May 1999)
Rated 29% by NARAL, indicating a pro-life voting record. (Dec 2003)
Expand embryonic stem cell research. (Jun 2004)

http://www.issues2000.org/Senate/Harry_Reid.htm
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 11:41 PM
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10. Harry Reid = "pro-choice?" Surely somebody jests!!
Edited on Tue Dec-28-04 11:55 PM by TaleWgnDg


U.S. Senator Harry Reid (D, NV) (who is a Mormon):

"Abortion Issues

"2003-2004 On the votes that the National Right to Life Committee considered to be the most important in 2003-2004, Senator Reid voted their preferred position 55 percent of the time.

"2003 On the votes that the National Abortion Reproductive Rights Action League considered to be the most important in 2003, Senator Reid voted their preferred position 29 percent of the time.

"2001-2002 On the votes that the National Right to Life Committee considered to be the most important in 2001-2002, Senator Reid voted their preferred position 33 percent of the time.

"2001 On the votes that the Planned Parenthood considered to be the most important from 1995 to 2001, Senator Reid voted their preferred position 50 percent of the time.

"2001 On the votes that the National Abortion Reproductive Rights Action League considered to be the most important in 2001, Senator Reid voted their preferred position 100 percent of the time.

"2000 On the votes that the National Abortion Reproductive Rights Action League considered to be the most important in 2000, Senator Reid voted their preferred position 30 percent of the time.

"1999-2000 On the votes that the National Right to Life Committee considered to be the most important in 1999-2000, Senator Reid voted their preferred position 66 percent of the time.

"1999 On the votes that the Planned Parenthood considered to be the most important in 1999, Senator Reid voted their preferred position 57 percent of the time.

"1996-2003 On the votes that the Planned Parenthood (Senate) considered to be the most important, Senator Reid voted their preferred position 56 percent of the time."

http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=S0561103

As well as, I am curious to know how Reid votes on anything relative to Roe v. Wade right to privacy issues, e.g., embryonic stem cell research, right to die w/ dignity issues. Is he able to remove his religion from these areas? He certainly hasn't demonstrated it in other related issues.

See for example: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6700571/site/newsweek/




edited to correct typo.

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