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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 08:59 AM
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I want my faith back - political hijacking of religion

"If we’d continued our conversation, I would have wanted to ask him this: Why are all the fights over posting religious language in government buildings — and, most recently, having it embroidered down the front of your judge’s robes — about the Ten Commandments? How come no one’s ever gone to court over posting the Beatitudes?"
"Of all the progressive and moderate people of faith I talked to as part of this story, Howard “Flash” Gordon, pastor of First Presbyterian Church and a social justice activist, told me the story I’ve repeated the most often:
When Ronald Reagan died earlier this year, someone from Fox News called Gordon, looking for a sound bite for a story on Reagan’s religious faith because Gordon had known Reagan’s pastor.
“I said, ‘He didn’t take care of poor people,’ ” Gordon said.
The guy from Fox said, “I don’t want to hear about poor people, I want to hear about Reagan’s Christianity.”
Gordon replied, “That IS Reagan’s Christianity,” and the Fox guy hung up on him."
http://www.arktimes.com/Articles/ArticleViewer.aspx?ArticleID=cd3a8b03-56d6-495b-b40b-46330316a2fc
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 09:11 AM
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1. Wonderful editorial
Thanks for posting.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 10:42 AM
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clidaw Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 08:21 AM
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6. No comtemporary historical evidence for Jesus.
"Contemporary non-Christian texts from Roman Jewish historian Josephus substantiate at least the gist of what Gibson captures on screen."

This statement is not true. There are no, repeat no, comtemporary non-christian texts that mention Jesus. The earliest anyone dates anything is the letters from Paul, which most date at around 50CE. That is not comtemporary if by contemporary he means during the life of the subject. The Josephus quote in the Antiquities is at least a partial forgery (as determined by the vast majority of biblical scholars), probably written by the bishop Eusebius in the forth century. That history was writted after 70CE, so it isn't comtemporary either.

I saw The Passion a couple of days ago and found it very boring. I did think some of the cinematography was good and could have been nominated for some award. That would be it though.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 08:04 PM
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7. post this crap somewhere else
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Mixxster Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 11:21 AM
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3. Great article! Thanks for posting it.
And that's coming from a person who thinks, on the whole, that organized religion has done far more harm than good.
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GoBlue Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 04:21 PM
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4. You got that right
Afterall, the vast majority of the world's citizens claim to be members of some organized religion, and yet the proof of religions value is in the world they inhabit.
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procinderella Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 08:01 PM
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5. Me too
When B*** said "you are either for us or against us", I nearly hit the roof. I've never forgotten that. That's blasphemy in my book. Only God gets to say that.

Bush is saying "if you are not with me, go to hell."

I don't think so. I don't think he is a Christan. He believes he's got God in his pocket. Boy is he in for a surprise!
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