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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 08:06 AM
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Dad: McKinney wants rematch against Majette

Former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, ousted from office in a hostile 2002 Democratic primary, wants a rematch against the woman who beat her: U.S. Rep. Denise Majette (D-Ga.).

On Sunday, McKinney's father, Billy McKinney, a former state representative, confirmed his daughter's planned entry into the 2004 4th District Democratic Party primary.

"Absolutely, she's running," the elder McKinney said. "We're going to make it exciting."

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/dekalb/0104/12mckinney.html
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 08:48 AM
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1. Good! She's needed.
A strong liberal/leftist.
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gttim Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 08:50 AM
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2. Fruitcake!
She needs to go away. Not only is she a nut, she is a poor congressman. She brought nothing to her district from congress. She is not well liked at all. I doubt she can even raise the funds to compete without being an incumbent. Not to mention, if she does run, her dad will be all over the press again. He just makes Democrats look like we are crazy.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 09:05 AM
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3. you should read Greg Palasts investigation
I'm not really a hard-left dem like probably atleast half of people here are, but it looks like she did get a raw shake. And about funds, she's become a hero to alot of the same people who are donating to Kucinich, and especially Dean, as well as probably a lot of the donaters to the other candidates. She can expect plenty of out of state money.

http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=229&row=1

The Screwing of Cynthia McKinney
By Greg Palast, AlterNet
Wednesday, June 18, 2003
E-Mail Article
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Have you heard about Cynthia McKinney, former U.S. Congresswoman?



According to those quoted on National Public Radio, McKinney’s “a loose cannon” (media expert) who “the people of Atlanta are embarrassed and disgusted” (politician) by, and she is also “loony” and “dangerous” (senator from her own party).



Yow! And why is McKinney dangerous/loony/disgusting? According to NPR, “McKinney implied that the Administration knew in advance about September 11 and deliberately held back the information.”



The New York Times’ Lynette Clemetson revealed her comments went even further over the edge: “Ms. McKinney suggest that President Bush might have known about the September 11 attacks but did nothing so his supporters could make money in a war.”



That’s loony, all right. As an editor of the highly respected Atlanta Journal Constitution told NPR, McKinney’s “practically accused the President of murder!”



Problem is, McKinney never said it.



That’s right. The “quote” from McKinney is a complete fabrication. A whopper, a fabulous fib, a fake, a flim-flam. Just freakin’ made up.
......
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 09:43 AM
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Ficus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:06 AM
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5. evidence
???
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:23 AM
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6. Bull crap. n/t
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:31 AM
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7. She was smeared by over I MIL of AIPAC money
Over 1 million dolars was dumped into one Democratic Primary by a Far-right, Likud-supporting, Jewish American group? HUH?

It was nothing by a dirty smear from beginning to end.

McKinney is also not responsible for her father.
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Indiana Democrat Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 12:59 PM
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24. She's responsible for her father if...
...she continues to allow him to be active in her political campaigns and/or polticial life.

If she doesn't want to be held responsible for his outlandish behavior (And "Outlandish" is a kind word in his case), then she needs to cut him lose.

Otherwise, he reflects poorly on her and all Democrats...Including me...And personally, I resent that.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:54 AM
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11. I'm in her district
and I like her, and I don't think she's a fruit cake, and I don't think she's a nut, and I'm pleased as hell that she's going to run again.

Just my opinion.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:59 AM
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13. I hope she runs, and wins.
She was just saying the things that more and more people are saying now, but before everybody else. I hope she wins big; we need more people like her in Congress.
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lotteandollie Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 06:47 PM
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25. I hope she runs too.
We could all use a good laugh.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 11:49 AM
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21. well, i don't think you're part of "we"
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SayitAintSo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 07:19 PM
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27. Read Palast .... She was taken out b/c she was the ONLY one asking ....
hard questions about the 2000 election, the Bush connection with Barrick ( gold mining ) and many other items. She is sharp as a tack and tough as nails. She got "Max Clelanded" and tagged as a fruitcake and YOU fell for it too ! Go read and then come back talk about McKinney. Her comments that were published in the AJC were NEVER attributed. Greg Palast made a public offering the EAT a copy the the AJC if the original writer that published that tripe could prove McKinneys comments - Never did. GO READ !!!
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:34 AM
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8. YEAH!!! I knew she would!
Edited on Mon Jan-12-04 10:34 AM by mouse7
When the research was done and people couldn't smear McKinney any more based on AIPAC lies, they smeared her claiming she was going to run as a Green for President.

Neither happened. She's staying a Democrat. She's running for her old house seat!

What can we do to help?
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:49 AM
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9. Question
Do you think her dad plans on raising money for her bid at local synagogues? </sarcasm>
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:52 AM
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10. She knows what is really going on in Congo
with Barrick Corp. burying over 50 people alive to claim the property for their mine. Stealing their land. Remember who was internatioal consultant for Barrick, George Bush Sr., got that job after he gave them $10 billion in gold mining rights on U.S. public land before he left office.
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outinforce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:56 AM
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12. Wasn't It Her Father Who Said.....???
Wasn't it her father who made come rather uncomplimentary comments about Jewish folks?

Comments, which, if I remember correctly, seemd to reflect a rather bigoted and out-moded view of Jews as bieng money-grubbers who dislike African Americans?

And, if I am correct, she never dis-avowed these rather disgusting comments her father made.

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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 11:17 AM
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14. Correct
...on all accounts.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 11:32 AM
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16. But how would you know for sure with this "liberal" press
Did you know that

Really? Atlanta has four internationally recognized black leaders. Martin Luther King III did not abandon McKinney. I checked with him. Nor did Julian Bond (the Times ran a rare retraction on their website at Bond's request). But that left Atlanta's two other notables: Vernon Jordan and Andrew Young. Here, the Times had it right; no question that these two black faces of the Atlanta Establishment let McKinney twist slowly in the wind -- because, the Times implied, of her alleged looniness.

But maybe there was another reason Young and Jordan let McKinney swing. Remember Barrick? George Bush's former gold-mining company, the target of McKinney's investigations? Did I mention to you that Andy Young and Vernon Jordan are both on Barrick's payroll? Well, I just did.

http://www.globalexchange.org/countries/unitedstates/democracy/700.html.pf
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 11:35 AM
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17. How I know
But how would you know for sure with this "liberal" press

This is how I know. I watched her father say that the reason she lost was because of J-E-W-S. He said it on camera and on national television. There is no getting around this one. The man said it and the whole country watched it.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 11:37 AM
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18. I was asking how would you know if McKinney
disavowed these comments?
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outinforce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 11:43 AM
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20. It seems to me
That if McKinnney publicly disavowed comments by her own father, made on her behalf, there would be some link somewhere to that fact.

Do you have any such link? I have searched, and can't find a thing, leading me to believe that she never disavowed these disgusting comments made by her father.

I am willing to be persuaded that McKinney in fact disavowed these comments of her fahter's. But I can find nothing to indicate that she did.

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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 11:05 AM
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29. Her own website
Even today contains anti-Semitic comments.

Go look: http://www.cynthia2002.com
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outinforce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 11:38 AM
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19. As I Recall,
At the time, I read of McKinney's father's view of Jewish folks -- a view I happen to find disgustingly bigoted -- as well as McKinney's non-disavowal of her father's intolerant comments -- right here on DU.

Do you have any information to indicate either that McKinney's father di not in fact make some disgustingly bigoted and intolerant remarks about Jewish people, or that McKinney disavowed her father's comments?

If so, I would be most happy to see them.

If not, then I'm afraid I'll have to say that I really do not support bigots -- or people that refuse to disavow bigoted comments made by their supporters on thier behalf.
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 07:37 PM
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28. I gather she's forgotten her whoopin from last time
and Majette has been doing a terrific job in her first term. And without the Arab money (they don't get fooled twice) she stands little chance.
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DennisReveni Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 11:27 AM
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15. This was part of the problem.
The way her own party disassociated themselves from her was truly disgusting. We all know about Palast claims, but I'm quite certain this was part of the backstabbing.
http://www.motherjones.com/news/special_reports/arms/lobbying.html
"n 1995 Rep. Cynthia McKinney (D-Ga.) and Sen. Mark Hatfield (R-Ore.) introduced the Code of Conduct bill , which would have tied all U.S. arms exports to the customer's democracy record, human-rights record, and its willingness to report arms imports and exports to the United Nations.

At a 1995 defense trade seminar, three influential arms export lobby groups recommended the bill "should be allowed to die in committees." Both the Senate and House versions of the bill were soundly defeated, with the 65 senators and 262 representatives who voted against it collecting some $4 million in contributions from defense PACs.

The undaunted McKinney, who in 1997 had said the U.S. "ought not to be in the business of supplying weapons to dictators," introduced yet another Code of Conduct bill in the House last September, with John Kerry (D-Mass.) doing so in the Senate. The bill passed in the House, but was not taken up in the Senate. McKinney plans to re-introduce the bill for debate by the 106th Congress. "

Look at what they did to Fiengold,
"n 1993 Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wis.) proposed that arms sales to Indonesia be linked to that country's human-rights record. Lobbyists immediately went to work opposing Feingold's proposal. As one complained to the Legal Times, "Every time a human-rights issue comes up, they jump on it and say, 'Let's cut off arms sales to Bongo Bongo.'"

The lobbyist then became defiant: "We'll fight Feingold; we'll fight each senator if we have to. The defense industry has to fight each one of these battles."

The Indonesian government's "registered foreign agents" -- its lobbyists in the U.S. -- disengaged from the fray and let American arms exporters do the fighting. The arms makers impressed upon legislators that tying arms exports to human rights meant the loss of jobs to foreign competitors. The State and Defense Departments phoned Feingold to let him know of the Clinton administration's opposition to the bill. The Feingold bill went down in flames."
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 11:59 AM
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22. Run Sister Run -
Overcome falsehood with truth.
Overcome hate with love. - Peace Pilgrim


Here She Comes:
http://www.chiron-communications.com/communique%208-4.html

Since my earliest spiritual awakenings, I have heard variations on a teaching passed down over many long years in the oral tradition.

The teaching suggests that as the old world is passing away, but before the new world is fully born — in an era of unrelenting crisis — the feminine spirit will rise to heal the chaos, the madness, the willful destruction of the Earth.


As various elders have said to me over the years, watching the feminine spirit rise is somewhat like watching grass grow. It doesn’t happen all at once, or dramatically, but it happens all the same.


To my eyes this rising is, in fact, one inevitable force now unfolding in the world. The rising is happening almost imperceptibly, but inevitably despite a vast array of forces seeking to overwhelm or thwart it. The consequences of these forces are evident in the ravaged oceans, the decimated forests, the unstable climate, the numbness of government, and the screaming missiles of war.

These conditions will not prevail. The feminine spirit is upward bound. It must rise now. Life depends upon it.

(snip)....
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 12:16 PM
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23. The only person in Congress trying
to expose the reasons behind the deaths of 3.5 million people in Congo since 1998. But I guess that's just not good enough for some.:cry:

Thanks for that link.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 07:12 PM
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26. Good (n/t)
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