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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 11:16 AM
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A Freeper's Freeper
We have a little message board in Durango. One of the frequent posters is a sailor, lounging on a tub in San Diego. This is what he posted yesterday to respond to a question for another poster about why she thought we went to war. Pretty funny? Yep, but pretty sad too.


Well hell, I think Ill just jump in here for fun....
The REASON we went to war in Iraq is the EXACT same reason we went to war in Afghanistan, the same reason we went to war on December 7th, 1941... the safety and security of the American people, and the American way of life. That is the REASON.
Certainly, there was a claim of suspected WMD. This claim started prior to Desert Storm in 1991 and has echoed through the halls of our government ever since. To date, we have not found any. Lack of evidence does not equate to lack of existence. Sadam did not cease existing between the last time we saw him on TV last March, and the next time we saw him during his capture in December. It could be all over the headlines by the time you wake tomorrow that we found some WMD over there, or maybe it will never happen.
Regardless if we find WMD or not, the world and America are safer because of our efforts. Some will say that Iraq and America are not safer because there are still servicemen dying, and a lot of violence going on. History proves these naysayers to be fools.
On June 6th, 10,300 allied soldiers died on the beaches of Normandy, France. 10,300!
Will these naysayers claim the world was not a safer place on June 7th, 1944? Yet over 100,000 battle deaths occurred AFTER that day.

Certainly, the US and the world are safer. Iraq will rebuild to a cultural and commercial greatness not seen in centuries. Libya is turning a new leaf. Pakistan and India are talking. Iran is allowing UN inspectors and conducting low-level talks with the US. Afghanistan just approved a constitution.

We are safer today, and there is a lot that can and MUST be done to make tomorrow even safer still.


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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 11:29 AM
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1. Do you think that when he says.............
(assuming it's a he)...."there is a lot that can and MUST be done to make tomorrow even safer still"....that he really means....:

"There's more killin' to do."??

He's certainly a moran. That's for sure.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 11:37 AM
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2. Idiot...
"Sadam did not cease existing between the last time we saw him on TV last March, and the next time we saw him during his capture in December."

He fails to realize that while we all had evidence that Saddam existed prior to disappearing, there was no such evidence for the WMDs. Logic clearly eludes freerepublic.com.
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 12:01 PM
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3. He sounds so foolish that I would beleive it
if someone told me he was engaging in parody.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 12:03 PM
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4. Lack of evidence does not equate to lack of existence
I've always loved that little gem
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 12:12 PM
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6. LOL! Try telling
that to the judge.
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 12:19 PM
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7. His justification for the Patriot Act will really give you a headache
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 12:11 PM
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5. "Lack of evidence does not equate to lack of existence."
I wonder what the fool would say if the DEA came knocking at his door someday looking for a stash. Just because they can't find it doesn't mean they're not there.
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spindoctor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 12:51 PM
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8. By the numbers.
1. The REASON we went to war in Iraq is the EXACT same reason we went to war in Afghanistan, the same reason we went to war on December 7th, 1941... the safety and security of the American people

There is, nor has there ever have been, any indication that Iraq posed a threat to the United States or the safety of the american people.
As members of the Federal Republic of the United States, we must assume that the reason for going to war (any war) is the reason that is told to congress by the Commander and Chief. All other reasons are simply assumptions of underlying motivation.

2. Certainly, there was a claim of suspected WMD. This claim started prior to Desert Storm in 1991 and has echoed through the halls of our government ever since. To date, we have not found any.

Prior to Desert Storm, there was not just a claim, but there was actual analysis and intelligence (not the kind that is rewritten by Administration members) that indicated the presence of chemical warheads and delivery devices. Since 1991, Iraq has been closely monitored and no such claim was made based on intelligence or inspections since then.

3. Lack of evidence does not equate to lack of existence.
No, but lack of existence equals lack of evidence. Lack of evidence makes lack of existence more probable.
I can make the claim that there is a gerbil living up your ass. With the help of a rubber glove and sufficient doses of KY Jelly, we can not produce any evidence that there is. However, according to your reasoning, that does not mean that there is no gerbil.

I would like you to meet my imaginary friend Roger.

4. Sadam did not cease existing between the last time we saw him on TV last March, and the next time we saw him during his capture in December.

Nor did anyone ever deny the existance of Sadam, as opposed to WMD's and certain rodents.

5. Regardless if we find WMD or not, the world and America are safer because of our efforts.

Without WMDs, Iraq did not make the world significantly less safe. Therefore, without WMDs, the world did not become safe but remained equally safe (or unsafe depending on your worldview). If there are WMDs but they cannot be found, like you claim earlier, then the world will not become safer until they are all accounted for.

6. Will these naysayers claim the world was not a safer place on June 7th, 1944? Yet over 100,000 battle deaths occurred AFTER that day.

Do the yaysayers compare Saddam Hussein to Adolph Hitler? Did Hussein occupy half the world with his massive armies and committed structured genocide (not to be confused with your average dictatorial opporession)? Hussein couldn't even invade Iraq when it was without an army, and only barely managed to take Kuwait (population 2 million) by surprise.

On a historical note, WWII did not end until June 1945. In 1944 the battles were just beginning. Certainly Roosevelt did not declare an end to major hostilities, nor did he make any suggestions resembling "Mission Accomplished" near that day.

7. Iraq will rebuild to a cultural and commercial greatness not seen in centuries.

And the apocalypse will occur on February 6th, 2007. Both are predictions without too much solid indications.
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The White Rose Donating Member (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 01:04 PM
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9. LOL! Imagining Freeper with inserted gerbil. Should be mandatory!!!
:hurts:
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 01:13 PM
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10. awww poor gerbil
ROFLMAO!
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 01:23 PM
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11. WOW!
Great job. Thanks.
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