the populist
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Mon Jan-12-04 07:39 PM
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O'Neill could face a prison sentence? |
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Edited on Mon Jan-12-04 07:40 PM by the populist
On Hardball the caption says that O'Neill could face a prison sentence. Now this is just disgusting.
See, this is how the Bush Company works: If someone exposes you, leak the name of that person's wife if she's a CIA operative; if the guy worked for you, put him in jail.
The only person who belongs in jail is *. He belongs in the Hague, that sleazebag.
I'm sorry, the thought of putting that poor old man who toured Africa with Bono in jail just makes me want to cry.
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Mon Jan-12-04 07:40 PM
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1. There will be a revolution before that. |
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Mon Jan-12-04 08:27 PM
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26. Suskind - O'Neill followed WH rules (names/dates) this prison stuff is BS |
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like all their other crap.
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Mon Jan-12-04 08:54 PM
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28. OMG those dumb fokkers took the bait! |
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now they have this thing tarred all over the headlines.
Almost like a roach takes the poison back to the nest...
The question is - can they stop the books from shipping tomorrow?
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Mon Jan-12-04 07:40 PM
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I tell you what, if such an outcome happens...there will be revolt in the streets...
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Mon Jan-12-04 07:42 PM
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4. is there a bus? i'll be the chicago ticket agent. np |
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Mon Jan-12-04 07:42 PM
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3. if he's stupid enough to show documents marked "secret" on TV... |
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... he deserves it.
He knows better than that. He signed documents describing what the consequences of such actions would be.
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Mon Jan-12-04 07:45 PM
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8. Paul O'Neil is not a stupid man |
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That carefully placed word is what is fueling the story now. All O'Neils documents were cleared before he left. But now there has to be an investigation.
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Mon Jan-12-04 07:46 PM
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9. It was the cover page! Watch the news! |
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O'Neill never showed the actual document to either CBS or Suskind. ABC news clarified this tonight.
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Hell Hath No Fury
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Mon Jan-12-04 07:56 PM
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it was a cover sheet that was noted as unclassified with a "secret" attachment -- we didn't see the secret document, just a description of it on the over sheet.
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Mon Jan-12-04 08:00 PM
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was a PERFECTT way to show * and administration that he's opening the door and letting the horses out. O'Neill's not a stupid man..rest assured, his attorney knows what's going on and was given the ok..There's a LOT more going to come out. And you can bet that IF anything happens to him, the info he wants out has been made into copies in more than one place.
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Mon Jan-12-04 07:46 PM
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10. How do you know what Paul O'Neill has and dosen't have? |
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You agree that junior deserves to be thrown out of office for being a fucking idiot?
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Mon Jan-12-04 07:47 PM
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A stamp with the word "secret" does not, in itself, make a secret document. I disagreed with just about all of his economic policies, but don't think for a minute he's stupid enough to show secret documents on television. He knows better, and the Administration also knows that he knows better. You have to ask yourself what they are up to with this move.
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Mon Jan-12-04 07:49 PM
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14. Shouldn't it have said "classified"? |
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The document with the word "secret" on it was just a cover sheet. However, if the content of the document was a matter of national security, wouldn't have said "classified" instead? I thought it was a bit odd when I saw it last night.
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Mon Jan-12-04 08:25 PM
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24. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. That is correct! |
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All 60 minutes showed was a COVER SHEET with the word "secret" in the subject line. O'Neill said that he had checked ahead of time to see what documents he could take with him. If he gave something to Suskind with the word "Classified" stamped on it, we haven't seen or heard about it.
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Mon Jan-12-04 08:07 PM
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18. It is NOT KNOWN the documents were actually 'secret." The word does |
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appear in one of the memos, but that has no effect on how they were at some point classified. I saw a lot of 'secret' stuff in the USAF...99.999% of which were totally undeserving, just stuff that was either embarrassing or simply silly. And there were files in a "safe" (really just a file cabinet with a crappy lock, and the key hung on a nail right over it) containing "TOP SECRET" stuff. I opened it up one day (Ent AFB in Colo. Springs) and looked at some of it. Just a bunch of idiotic and paranoiac garbage. :eyes:
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Mon Jan-12-04 07:43 PM
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The administration must be scared to death. And maybe they have good reason to be.
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Mon Jan-12-04 07:46 PM
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11. With this administration |
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toilet paper is considered secret. Eveything is a secrt. cheney's plan for the Iraqi oil, Giving out Iraq land to the hightest bidders. Get real. Get cheney out of there.
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Mon Jan-12-04 07:47 PM
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breaking the law will only serve to validate the support that has come out since the "revelations".
Its not too hard to believe that a law-breaker is a liar too.
Don't you relaize WHY there was not a more immediate and pointed response from the White House ? They knew what would appear on the tape and just waited for him to hang himself.
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Mon Jan-12-04 09:33 PM
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30. You repeat the talking points but you don't seem to have seen the memo |
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The document shown was NOT marked "secret" or restricted in any way.
That is the fact of the matter.
The word "secret" appeared in the text of the cover letter which listed several items, one of which was described as secret. Claiming that some law was broken is a desperate attempt at a smear. If you had followed the story more closely you would also have discovered that the records O'Neill had copies of went through the usual legal screening before being released.
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Mon Jan-12-04 07:44 PM
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6. The megalomaniac comes out of the closet. |
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I thought Rove was more influential than this. I believe he counseled Bush and Cheney to let him (Rove) send the talking points to Limbaugh, Hannity, et al (his loyal orcs), then to let it drop, knowing that the media wouldn't pursue it. But, O'Neill struck the loyalty nerve (seig!), with both Bush and Cheney (his mentor), and the true fascism of this administration is now shining through. The camps aren't far behind, after the "election."
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Mon Jan-12-04 07:45 PM
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7. The raw viciousness, ruthlessness of the Republican Party is terrifying! |
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Mon Jan-12-04 08:00 PM
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17. They're trying to shut him up |
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I dunno - I have trouble imagining this guy as the next hero of Bush-hating Democrats/progressives. I'm pleased he revealed these thugs as idealogue-bots, and Bush as a disconnected moron, but ultimately this is going to cost him more hassle than he needs.
This will be gone in 6 weeks. Sorry, but I really believe this.
Now...the 19,000 documents. That MAY be another story - of course, this Treasury investigation may be designed to lock those up as 'evidence'. Until after the election.
Hmmm....
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Mon Jan-12-04 08:12 PM
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19. Well, I'll give really really big odds they have multiple sets of copies |
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stashed away in "undisclosed locations." :D
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Mon Jan-12-04 08:14 PM
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There could be many, many copies.
Not like the old days, where they suicide you and your notebooks just disappear.
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Mon Jan-12-04 08:18 PM
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21. If wanting justice and accountability makes us 'Bush haters'... |
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Mon Jan-12-04 08:21 PM
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Just pointing out that relying on O'Neill to be a standard bearer in this fight might be wishful thinking.
I hate Bush. I have my reasons.
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Mon Jan-12-04 08:28 PM
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27. is he more believable as an angry conservative? |
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Mon Jan-12-04 08:24 PM
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23. Has anyone thought to wonder why O'Neil saw fit to save these documents? |
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How come he has them all? What made him save them over the period of time that he was employed under Bush?
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Mon Jan-12-04 08:27 PM
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25. because Linda Tripp said, it's like a blue dress? |
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Edited on Mon Jan-12-04 08:27 PM by spooky3
"no one will believe you otherwise?"
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Mon Jan-12-04 09:27 PM
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29. Now who did O'Neill "out?" Whose life is endangered? |
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What national security is at risk. Everything he exposed is after-the-fact.
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Mon Jan-12-04 09:35 PM
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He should know better. The Bush White House is ruthless.
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